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Who couldnt careless about in-ger-land ?

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Id chat more mate but ive got an English defence league meeting to attend and today we are talking about turbans and they threat they pose to our grandmothers .

Why you acting like that? It's an interesting discussion. I hear about all these national side haters and I want to know why.
 
You can't beat Everton , Liverpool and United fans to name but a few all stood together cheering on the same cause without the slightest hint of domestic rivalry .
The occasional hug when England score , and the mutual tension during a penalty shoot out .
There's nothing that brings the country together like an England match at the World Cup .
 
You can't beat Everton , Liverpool and United fans to name but a few all stood together cheering on the same cause without the slightest hint of domestic rivalry .
The occasional hug when England score , and the mutual tension during a penalty shoot out .
There's nothing that brings the country together like an England match at the World Cup .

Well that's what i'm talking about, it's great to see rivals come together and stand shoulder to shoulder.

You remove that level of unification and the country will become more divided.
 
Right ill be serious . The England team contains players I dont care alot for . You might be able to see past this with them being English but I cannot . Players like Rooney , Ashley Cole , Gerrard .....you get were I am going . I could never whole heartedly cheer Gerrard scoring . Seeing his face contorted with joy and me loving it ......well its NEVER going to happen . I couldnt careless if he had just saved my own mother from drowing something in me would still want pull his ears off .

England isnt my team never has been never will be . I dont get off on it not one little bit . I dont like the Royal Family infact if it ever went down and people forcefully went after them I would right there in the street pulling the gates down . So THAT anthem winds me up no end . Singing about laying your life down for an outdated ruling elite is about as pathetic to me as it gets . I hate the whoraahenrys who run this country , I despise them .

So you see where I am going dont you .
 
They make the laws , they own three quarters of the land , the own the Bank of England who keep this country in trilions of unpaybackable debt , they infest goverment hierachy , they infest the banking & financial world , top universties etc etc etc . Hell they even have us singing about saving them whenever the National team plays

You might be cool with that but me my friend I am not .
 

Well what if Rooney signed for Everton, would your tune change?

It's up to you, I think your reasons are bizarre, but its up to you.

As for the government and the way it runs the country, that has **** all to do with the England team. I agree the regal singing is antiquated, but that is due to the royal family becoming a tourist attraction more than anything.

I do though find it strange that this lack of national pride is certainly condensed into Merseyside. Rooney and Gerrard don't sing, whereas John Terry does. Maybe he doesn't care about the government? I don't know.

Like I say it's up to you, but what I don't understand is why you felt the need to start a thread about it. How angry are you?

I don't like the way scousers and wools criticise England football, but I don't feel the need to start a thread about it. It's not very pro-active.
 
I look at England as the people , not the monarchy . Just the same way as I look at Everton as the heart and soul being the fans , not the board , and not even the players to some extent , as players come and go .
I can understand people finding it difficult to relate to players they would normally want to see fail , and cheering them on , but we need to separate the 2 issues when it comes to domestic and national football .
At the end of the day , it's just a game , but history shows us that it is also a huge part of peoples lives world wide , and has actually played it's part in bringing the world closer .

You only have to look at the world war , where both sets of soldiers put their guns down , and played football . (y)
 
I look at England as the people , not the monarchy . Just the same way as I look at Everton as the heart and soul being the fans , not the board , and not even the players to some extent , as players come and go .
I can understand people finding it difficult to relate to players they would normally want to see fail , and cheering them on , but we need to separate the 2 issues when it comes to domestic and national football .
At the end of the day , it's just a game , but history shows us that it is also a huge part of peoples lives world wide , and has actually played it's part in bringing the world closer .

You only have to look at the world war , where both sets of soldiers put their guns down , and played football . (y)

Good one mate. There is no need to get angry all the time, I found out the hard way, and it can have adverse effects.
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Well what if Rooney signed for Everton, would your tune change?

It's up to you, I think your reasons are bizarre, but its up to you.

As for the government and the way it runs the country, that has **** all to do with the England team. I agree the regal singing is antiquated, but that is due to the royal family becoming a tourist attraction more than anything.

I do though find it strange that this lack of national pride is certainly condensed into Merseyside. Rooney and Gerrard don't sing, whereas John Terry does. Maybe he doesn't care about the government? I don't know.

Like I say it's up to you, but what I don't understand is why you felt the need to start a thread about it. How angry are you?

I don't like the way scousers and wools criticise England football, but I don't feel the need to start a thread about it. It's not very pro-active.

You find it strange that Rooney & Gerrard dont sing ? I dont they are from Liverpool which if you hadnt noticed was sh*tted on by the Torries for years & years and is now and only now starting to find its feet though I fear the damage those bastards did is too deep to ever properly rectify .

You will notice should Gary Neville ever play for England again that he never sings and looks at the floor because he feels exactly the same as me about that god awful anthem .

I remember walking past a pub near mine when England where playing Portugal and hearing everyone going apesh*t over something . I had to laugh to myself because I knew it would all end in tears and predictably it did . Que girls & blokes who know nothing about football laughing and joking barely seconds later .

I do watch England when they are in a world cup or European championship but only to laugh when they get shown up the second they play a decent team .
 
You find it strange that Rooney & Gerrard dont sing ? I dont they are from Liverpool which if you hadnt noticed was sh*tted on by the Torries for years & years and is now and only now starting to find its feet though I fear the damage those bastards did is too deep to ever properly rectify .

You will notice should Gary Neville ever play for England again that he never sings and looks at the floor because he feels exactly the same as me about that god awful anthem .

I remember walking past a pub near mine when England where playing Portugal and hearing everyone going apesh*t over something . I had to laugh to myself because I knew it would all end in tears and predictably it did . Que girls & blokes who know nothing about football laughing and joking barely seconds later .

I do watch England when they are in a world cup or European championship but only to laugh when they get shown up the second they play a decent team .

Glad that people's heartache made you smile. Nice attitude mate.

And for ****'s sake, the Tories shat on everyone, how long can scousers use it as an excuse? Those who live in Liverpool are responsible for their own community, it's up to them how they live.
 

I have been fortunate to travel the world and one thing has always struck me that the things I love about England dont feature for others .
 
Glad that people's heartache made you smile. Nice attitude mate.

And for ****'s sake, the Tories shat on everyone, how long can scousers use it as an excuse? Those who live in Liverpool are responsible for their own community, it's up to them how they live.


Yes the torries brutalised alot of Northen England but they went after Liverpool hard because scousers were militant , organised & ready to fight and were not having their bullying tactics. They never forgot how hard they made it for them and went after their funding with avengance . Only now in 2009 are you seeing fresh building sites in Liverpool with a view to re-shaping Liverpool itself . Manchester is the same though arguably the IRA bombing helped speed up its regeneration .
 
Yes the torries brutalised alot of Northen England but they went after Liverpool hard because scousers were militant , organised & ready to fight and were not having their bullying tactics. They never forgot how hard they made it for them and went after their funding with avengance . Only now in 2009 are you seeing fresh building sites in Liverpool with a view to re-shaping Liverpool itself . Manchester is the same though arguably the IRA bombing helped speed up its regeneration .

Well that's the government isn't it. The England team isn't a Southern side, it's based in London because that's the capital and it will take some serious amount of revolution to change that.

I lived in the North West all my life and inner city deprivation is just as much the fault as those who live in it as it is the people who don't.

I lived near some council estates and quite a sizeable amount of the population in those areas didn't give a **** about their community, only interested in ripping each other off, dealing drugs, letting their kids run amock. You can't blame that on the government for not giving them proper support.

Not everything can be put on the government, Liverpool folk are grown ups and can take responsibility for their own actions.
 
Well that's the government isn't it. The England team isn't a Southern side, it's based in London because that's the capital and it will take some serious amount of revolution to change that.

I lived in the North West all my life and inner city deprivation is just as much the fault as those who live in it as it is the people who don't.

I lived near some council estates and quite a sizeable amount of the population in those areas didn't give a **** about their community, only interested in ripping each other off, dealing drugs, letting their kids run amock. You can't blame that on the government for not giving them proper support.

Not everything can be put on the government, Liverpool folk are grown ups and can take responsibility for their own actions.

I am not talking about people who live on council estates though am I ? I am talking about local council feed goverment funding which is filtered through from London ( Partly now from Brussels ) and is strictly controlled . It is my own perosnal view that if Great Britian wasnt in the EU Liverpool wouldnt have seen the invest ment that it has .
 
I Couldn't -- Playing for in-ger-land is a costly game for everton - it massages players egos to the extent think they are bigger than their club side and call me paranoid seems to be where the tapping up and unsettling of players begins see - lescott, rooney, jeffers:lol:, Keown, even as far back as lineker....:rant:
Once they wore the 3 lions - that was it
Lets hope Jags has more sense.....
 

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