Who should replace Frank Lampard?

[matty1878]

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Tip	Odds (Click to bet)	Bet with
Wayne Rooney	11/8	Paddy Power
Sean Dyche	3/1	BetVictor
Roberto Martinez	8/1	BetVictor
Marcelo Bielsa	12/1	Paddy Power
Mauricio Pochettino	12/1	BetVictor
Duncan Ferguson	12/1	BetVictor
Ange Postecoglu	14/1	Paddy Power
Brendan Rodgers	16/1	BetVictor

they’re all crap and lol @ pochettino

 

[The_Street_End]

Don't think anybody can fix us if I'm honest.
If pushed, out of all the names given, think Moyes is our best shout tbh. Pretty decent at making a system on the pitch to mitigate limited attacking players, our defence is good enough to keep us in this league.
We just can't attack/sustain attacks. It will be dire, but I genuinely can't think of anyone.

Bit of a rewriting going on with Martinez, we had some decent players with Martinez and it was always passing it along the back with no desire moving it forward, kind of what's going on now. Also, we were one of the least fittest teams in the league under him.

Think we need a dire, percentages manager atm to help us keep us up. Moyes is the best one available imo. His teams could play as well, I mean, this one if he comes won't like.

 

[degsy]

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they’re all crap and lol @ pochettino

Yeah but what ya gonna do...or more to the point - what's Moshiri (or whoever's actually doing the hiring and firing ) going to do
Maybe nothing

 

[dutchblue54]

Sticking my neck out here, but why the aversion to Martinez?

Our clear issue under Lampard has been our ability to move the ball forward and play a coherent attacking style.

With last years squad, Martinez ball would be suicide, but I think with Tarkowski, Coady and Myko, we have a solid defensive unit (as shown earlier in the season). We also have Gana and Iwobi who can pass the ball. So, couldn't Martinez get a tune out of us going forward, and allow us to start scoring goals, while placing faith in experienced defenders to be solid?

Our inability to move the ball forward has been what has caught the defense out (see Wolves last minute goal and the last three last night). That is further highlighted by the sit and defend success we had against Man City. Our lack of confidence and system going forward has been our undoing defensively.

It's an old adage, but could the best form of defense be attack and could Martinez unlock that?

Same what happened at us happened to him with Belgium. NO WAY !!!. You saw it yesterday: overcommit players and there are holes in our defence. This will happen under Martinez too: playing out from the back all the time / he was dreadful at defending set pieces. The only thing is we probably would have lost 2-5 or 3-5 yesterday. It has got to be someone like Moyes / Dyche who wont settle for anything less than 100% commitment.

 

[dutchblue54]

Tip	Odds (Click to bet)	Bet with
Wayne Rooney	11/8	Paddy Power
Sean Dyche	3/1	BetVictor
Roberto Martinez	8/1	BetVictor
Marcelo Bielsa	12/1	Paddy Power
Mauricio Pochettino	12/1	BetVictor
Duncan Ferguson	12/1	BetVictor
Ange Postecoglu	14/1	Paddy Power
Brendan Rodgers	16/1	BetVictor

Where is Moyesie lol. Wont be Rooney or Ferguson i guess. Pochettino wont come. Nuno Espirito missing on the list too, maybe Thelwell will put his name forward

 

[Papa Shango]

I look at the job Moyes has done with a West Ham team that was in a similar position a few years ago, I think back to the job he did the first time and I just think he’d be the safest pair of hands.
The downside is it would strengthen Kenwrights hold on the club because Moyes is his boy.
Martinez has us relegated by early April.

They are below us in the league...

 

[degsy]

Where is Moyesie lol. Wont be Rooney or Ferguson i guess. Pochettino wont come. Nuno Espirito missing on the list too, maybe Thelwell will put his name forward

Just off the sheet at 20s - not for me though.

 

[ToffeeScot]

The more I think about it the more I think Ange should be the man. He is a progressive manager and he follows the same type of model that Brighton/Brentford do of targeting other leagues and unknown players that are absolute gems.

 

[polish]

Shame Vitor Pereira just

The more I think about it the more I think Ange should be the man. He is a progressive manager and he follows the same type of model that Brighton/Brentford do of targeting other leagues and unknown players that are absolute gems.

That would be good move, but cant see him leaving Celtic mid-season for us.

Also we propably cant afford compensation.

 

[BiggyRat]

He'd ruin all our players

...They can get worse????

 

[billyblue80]

Of course I don't want us relegated but I feel like the board and owner deserve it for the clusterf#ck of mismanagement over year's and years!

 

[Norman_Conquest]

I've read this thread with some interest and some of the comments have made me laugh. A lot of you are wanting to replace Lampard with Martinez and if memory serves me right, he was sacked by Everton after a fans protest that wanted him out. Martinez had Everton playing in Europa competition (2015) and reached the semi-finals of both domestic cups in 2016.

Others are asking for the return of Allardyce. Again, if memory serves me right, Everton fans were disgruntled at his style of play even though he got the team to finish in 8th place after a dismal start to the season.

Then we have David Moyes, better known by Everton fans as 'Dithering Dave.' Moyes must be the most consistent manager Everton has had for some time yet against the so called top four of the time (Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea & Arsenal), Everton failed to win an away game against them in 43 attempts and was highly criticized for this by Everton fans.

I know the football is awful at the moment and Lampard is a poor manager, but look at other managers who have been in here and did a half decent job only to get hounded out. Everton fans need to realise they are playing for minor places now and other so called smaller clubs have passed them by. The glory days are in the past and will remain that way for some time.

None of the managers mentioned above will return to Goodison, you are looking for someone who is desperate for a job and the only people who fit that bill are Dyche and Chris Wilder. One looks like he should be a bouncer at a local shopping mall and the other is a failed manager at both Sheff Utd and Boro.

You could hang on and get Steve Cooper from Forest, he will be getting the sack soon.

 

[billyblue80]

It will be Dyche but I have no hope anyone can save us it goes beyond the manager we can't score goals and ripped out all the creativity

 

[billyblue80]

We sacked allardyce for getting us 8th. The fans are rotten to the core. Makes 0 sense
Allardyce knows how to survive a relegation scrap Dyche does not.

We actually deserve to get relegated.
Pereira out , lampard in lol
Some of our fans are delusional and sick in the head

So it was the fans fault that the shortlist was between two bad managers? Who put the shortlist together?

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Sticking my neck out here, but why the aversion to Martinez?

Our clear issue under Lampard has been our ability to move the ball forward and play a coherent attacking style.

With last years squad, Martinez ball would be suicide, but I think with Tarkowski, Coady and Myko, we have a solid defensive unit (as shown earlier in the season). We also have Gana and Iwobi who can pass the ball. So, couldn't Martinez get a tune out of us going forward, and allow us to start scoring goals, while placing faith in experienced defenders to be solid?

Our inability to move the ball forward has been what has caught the defense out (see Wolves last minute goal and the last three last night). That is further highlighted by the sit and defend success we had against Man City. Our lack of confidence and system going forward has been our undoing defensively.

It's an old adage, but could the best form of defense be attack and could Martinez unlock that?

I'd say with Martinez, the players need to buy in to the ethos.
This shower won't.
Easy money easy life.
Oh,and look how 'successfully ' Belgium were.