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Who would you sell at the end of the season.

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eternal_defiance said:
What if we sell Lukaku and others want to follow suit

Lukaku for £62m to Real Madrid
Barkley for £54m to Man Utd and Mourinho who would want him
Stones for £58m to Man Utd and Mourinho
Coleman for £26m to Arsenal
Mori to Barcelona for £24m
Mirallas to Roma for £8-12m

What are we gonna do then?
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Well with that quarter billion we could hope we buy Leicester City and just put our kit on their players.
 
ftk43 said:
1) All the obvious answers: McGeady, Kone, Pienaar etc.

If we get rid of Martinez: sell McCarthy, we need a fresh start in that area, sell Cleverly, would be great business from us, he's not good enough anyway and i think that's it in that case.

If manager stays: Sell Mirallas, thay will never get along now, sell Lukaku 'cause i simply don't see the point in keeping him at the club that will never achieve what Rom is trying to achieve ie. regular CL football, possibly sell Stones since it seems to me he doesn't believe in Martinez anymore.
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I agree on getting rid of McCarthy if Martinez left, but if he stayed I would still try and keep our best player in Lukaku!
 
orly said:
Fantastic post this Prev, really interesting point of view
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It was interesting for me to lay my own thoughts out in a non-troll-y way, as it's mostly been a feeling up until now. I've been slating Rom to wind people up, but it was based on real sentiments. I've felt he is wrong for us most of this season and it's weird to see so many people panic about losing him when, not only am I okay with it, I actively want him to go.

I could be wrong, of course. But if it plays out as I imagine, and we get the right player in, I think we'll perform considerably better in the league next year. We'll be 5th or something, and people will say "Could you imagine where we'd be with Rom in the team?", completely missing the point I made on this very day.

Bookmark this Orly, I want you to be the one to vault me, for better or for worse
 

Abraders said:
I agree on getting rid of McCarthy if Martinez left, but if he stayed I would still try and keep our best player in Lukaku!
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i mean, on Lukaku it's my humane side speaking, like yeah it would be best for the club if we retain him, but it just feels unfair on the lad, he's got everything he needs to succeed on the highest level, he doesn't have to waste his career in the disfunctional team led by a manager of questionable ability.
 
Prevenger17 said:
It’s a hard one to explain, and even harder off the back of his best season for us, so excuse me if this is a little long-winded.

Unlike some on here, I won’t claim to be a master tactician with all the answers that are apparently staring Martinez in the face. For all the sniping we do at each other, I think @nsno-chris is on the button when he puts bad results down to a chronic lack to pressing. Where we disagree, is where on the pitch that shortcoming is killing us.

When I think of our attacking players, from our widemen up, Aaron Lennon is the only one I can see who not only identifies problems high up the pitch, and also has the energy and pace to do something about it. Lukaku, for all his hard work, rarely wins the ball high up the field, and his poor control often puts us in dangerous situations. Barkley is similar, a behemoth going forward, but not fast or clever enough to put pressure on opposition defenders at opportunistic moments. I like Cleverley, but he’s very much in the same vein, with only a fraction of Rom or Ross’s attacking talent. Deulofeu’s reluctance to track back is well documented.

What we’re left with is a forward line of what are essentially luxury players. When it goes well, we look amazing. When it doesn’t, it’s open season in our midfield and we’re as brittle as a twig. From what I can see, there are two main problems with this.

a) We’re giving Barry and McCarthy way too much to do, and giving out about them whenever they can’t do it

b) We make very few goal scoring chances from basic opportunism, seizing on bad back-passes, dispossessing a defender high up the field, forcing errors etc.

You mention Lukaku in the same breath as Suarez but, for me, there’s no comparison to be had. As good as Lukaku is, Suarez is on a different level and, from what I can see, always will be. If the midfield isn’t providing, Lukaku waits. Suarez makes his own chances happen. Lukaku wants to score goals. Suarez wants to win. Liverpool have now thrown away more points from winning positions than us, and that’s because their attacking players are just as ineffective at defending high up the field as we are.

It comes down to personnel. You can have 1 or 2 dedicated attacking players up front, but not your entire front line. It’s especially hard when your striker has very little by way of hold up technique. Something has to give. Ross is a good lad and a great player who loves the club. Rom wants to play Champions League wherever and, in the right setup, is most certainly good enough to do so. I know which one I want to keep.

Even Martinez’ detractors say he’s got some eye for talent but a terrible system. What if it’s the other way around? What if it’s a good system, but he himself is identifying some of the wrong personnel to carry it out, and pure talent is obscuring it? From what I can see, we need more energy and guile up there, not just attacking flair. Our team value is skyrocketing, but there’s a lack of synergy in the team that would trouble any manager. I think it only needs one or two tweaks, personally, because we have seen how it looks when it clicks. I reckon one of those tweaks is a striker with less bounce in their shins and the ability to tackle and dispossess.

I have to clarify, I think Rom is a great lad, a very good player and a tireless worker. But I feel both parties would be better served by a transfer this summer, provided we bring in a suitable replacement.
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To be honest I've heard a few people suggest this. We were a better team in the seasons before and after we had Lineker so it's made sense in the past.
 
I'd only sell the obvious ones not or no longer contributing much to our squad: Hibbert, Piennar, McGeady, Gibson, Osman.

I'd keep Mirallis and all our 'stars' too
 

Out....(would put money on it)
Stones, lukaku, Pienaar, Howard, Miralles, Mcgeady.
In....

Dear god...

I dread to think of this manager being trusted with our first real war chest we've had in decades. It terrifies me.
 
Will be absolutely outraged if any of the clear deadwood (including McGeady and Kone in that) are still here going into the new season. They need to be told (may already have been - here's hoping) they have no future with us and are either not being offered new contracts or will be sold to whoever bids for them.

Hibbert, Gibson, McGeady, Kone, Mirallas, Osman, Pienaar along with Howard.

If Stones is still attracting bids we need to play our cards right and we can easy get 40m for him.

If you think about it, all of that, plus new TV money, plus Mr Moshiri money = the perfect starting point for any new manager to come in and make his mark on the club.

Please let it happen!
 

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