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If we had to sacrifice a journalist as well then Matt Hughes is the way to go I feel.
Ey....Maybe Mr 'i lash 7 quid on fish suppers' should be throwing a bid in
I’ll drive him there myself.
Can't see supporter engagement going well when "don't shoot the messenger" has a literal application
CrustySack
Player Valuation: £0.99p
If it's true that Saudi wealth is interested then it's game over for the other bidders.
It's not just the stadium. The whole Liverpool Waters project is rife for development and investment and is perfect for Saudi money.
The next few days will be interesting.
It's not just the stadium. The whole Liverpool Waters project is rife for development and investment and is perfect for Saudi money.
The next few days will be interesting.
nonstripdzebra
Player Valuation: £1m
Quick half baked research and opinions of said groups.
Bell Downing
Pros Evertonians and thus assumed better local knowledge and by extension fan communication. Concerns are the level of wealth, accumulated est worth is under a billion. They have a possible finance option from Michael Dell, but paint me concerned. You are buying an asset worth rumored half your net worth means you are hyperly reliant or indebted on a secondary financing source. That makes me think they will be leveraging the club for possibly personal profits, let alone maybe having too shallow of pockets for competition.
Vatche Manoukian
Pros maybe has a huge source of finances through Saudi connect. Concerns are frankly the source industry of his wealth. IMS Digital Ventures strikes me as a bit too volatile or a cutting edge for assurance. It makes me think Vatche may be somewhat of a foil similar to Moshiri and Usmanov. Would we have an owner hyperly reliant on a deeper pocket co financier again. I also personally would be uncomfortable with Saudi money ethically. Not to make that a big discussion, nor to act that moral distinctions with other billionaires are huge. This level of wealth almost goes hand to hand with human rights violations in some way. Personally though that may just be a bit of a bridge too far for me when given other alternatives.
John Textor
Pros premier league experience and credible football experience. Concerns first him struggling clearing himself of his Palace shares likely ruling him out. Also possibly the level of wealth rumored net worth at 3ish billion. That places us relatively in the lower middle in regards to sole premier league owner counterparts. Maybe fine in an EPL with more stringent financial rules and advantages but equally likely not a place of separation competitively.
Dan Friedkin
Pros diverse source of finances, owns another football asset, and is worth est 6 billion. Concerns not all that much football experience having a sole club in AS Roma to which he payed almost double the rumored tag of Everton. Would we be priority in between those two assets? or benefit from just one sister club in the ownership umbrella? In regards to football ownership not a lot of info considering the length of tenure.
MSP
Pros already involved with Everton and thus could likely clear financial holdovers easier than other groups. Have a multi club model along with other sports ventures. Were rumored with Spurs so clearly aspirational. Concerns the actual depth of finances, and how much of it we'd see. Have read mixed things, Jahm Najafi chairman net worth at 2 billion. Clearly more cash in the consortium but the nature of venture capitalist is to extract and or flip assets. Makes me wary of stability or longterm commitment.
Bell Downing
Pros Evertonians and thus assumed better local knowledge and by extension fan communication. Concerns are the level of wealth, accumulated est worth is under a billion. They have a possible finance option from Michael Dell, but paint me concerned. You are buying an asset worth rumored half your net worth means you are hyperly reliant or indebted on a secondary financing source. That makes me think they will be leveraging the club for possibly personal profits, let alone maybe having too shallow of pockets for competition.
Vatche Manoukian
Pros maybe has a huge source of finances through Saudi connect. Concerns are frankly the source industry of his wealth. IMS Digital Ventures strikes me as a bit too volatile or a cutting edge for assurance. It makes me think Vatche may be somewhat of a foil similar to Moshiri and Usmanov. Would we have an owner hyperly reliant on a deeper pocket co financier again. I also personally would be uncomfortable with Saudi money ethically. Not to make that a big discussion, nor to act that moral distinctions with other billionaires are huge. This level of wealth almost goes hand to hand with human rights violations in some way. Personally though that may just be a bit of a bridge too far for me when given other alternatives.
John Textor
Pros premier league experience and credible football experience. Concerns first him struggling clearing himself of his Palace shares likely ruling him out. Also possibly the level of wealth rumored net worth at 3ish billion. That places us relatively in the lower middle in regards to sole premier league owner counterparts. Maybe fine in an EPL with more stringent financial rules and advantages but equally likely not a place of separation competitively.
Dan Friedkin
Pros diverse source of finances, owns another football asset, and is worth est 6 billion. Concerns not all that much football experience having a sole club in AS Roma to which he payed almost double the rumored tag of Everton. Would we be priority in between those two assets? or benefit from just one sister club in the ownership umbrella? In regards to football ownership not a lot of info considering the length of tenure.
MSP
Pros already involved with Everton and thus could likely clear financial holdovers easier than other groups. Have a multi club model along with other sports ventures. Were rumored with Spurs so clearly aspirational. Concerns the actual depth of finances, and how much of it we'd see. Have read mixed things, Jahm Najafi chairman net worth at 2 billion. Clearly more cash in the consortium but the nature of venture capitalist is to extract and or flip assets. Makes me wary of stability or longterm commitment.
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How would it work with the Saudi PIF already having a share in Newcastle?
Like I get that other members of the family will have their own wealth, but you’d imagine the “big” funds to be tied up in the PIF.
If this is real Saudi wealth why do they need the others in the consortium
Bristol Blue
Player Valuation: £10m
That was Smack Russell mate, Jack Russell played for Gloucestershire
brieverton
Player Valuation: £40m
The Saudi Royal is probably a very wealthy individual by normal standards, but I very much doubt that anyone with significant wealth or standing is going to compete against their national sovereign wealth fund in the same league, or would even be permitted to do so.
If they don't have big wealth and/or standing, and one comes with the other, then I'd guess this person's involvement is just being emphasised for effect. I wouldn't expect such a person to be in a position where they can materially effect things for the better at Everton, in the event Manoukian becomes the preferred bidder. You want the real deal in that scenario, not associates, uncles, nephews, or friends of friends.
If they don't have big wealth and/or standing, and one comes with the other, then I'd guess this person's involvement is just being emphasised for effect. I wouldn't expect such a person to be in a position where they can materially effect things for the better at Everton, in the event Manoukian becomes the preferred bidder. You want the real deal in that scenario, not associates, uncles, nephews, or friends of friends.
The mental gymnastics some of yous are doing to justify potential Saudi owners.
As bad as the Geordies some of yous.
I’ll be vaulting like a mad man when this one falls through.
As bad as the Geordies some of yous.
I’ll be vaulting like a mad man when this one falls through.
Off you pop then, go and support Burnley.
I’m sure their forums would welcome someone as enlightened as you with open arms.
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