Why I Think Everton Will Be Relegated

[GrandOldSte117]

The fans , Richarlison and Pickford kept us up. The club have marginalised one , sold and not replaced the other so we’re now reliant on Pickford creating an atmosphere on and off the pitch , scoring , creating and saving goals

Our only hope was if we sacked Lampard after Bournemouth and got in someone like Dyche who would have gotten us 4 points minimum from those last two homegames. We kept Lampard and have suffered the consequences

 

[BrendanGOT]

19 games in, and despite how grim we've been - there's only 2 points between 20th and 14th.

Talk of certain/inevitable relegation at this stage feels premature, but I thought I'd share a nice thread to cheer everyone on why I think we'll be relegated this season.

• Everton survive 2021/22 by the skin of our teeth.
• Everton end last season 19/20 for big chances created, 20/20 for chances created. [May] [June] [July] [August]
• Everton have a Director of Marketing and a Manager who have no credentials of navigating transfer markets. [June]
• Everton sell their 'talisman' in Richarlison - a player responsible for scoring/providing over a third of our goals [September].
• Everton perhaps aren't 'replacing' Richarlison, but Everton desperately needed to mitigate that loss. Everton try it through signing Dwight '1 assist 0 goal in previous season' McNeil, and Neal Maupay - the least 'number 9' in this Everton team you'll ever find. [September] [September]
• Everton start 2022/23 with a team less effective than they did 2021/22. [September]
• Everton play the first 6 (I think 6 could be wrong?) games without a recognised striker. Everton stay up by the skin of their teeth, months later they start a season vs Chelsea with Anthony Gordon upfront ducking out of aerial challenges with Koulibaly an Silva.
• Any manager has this Everton team in a relegation scrap. It's relegation fodder [July]. Frank Lampard has no credentials at all to suggest he's at least reducing the odds of relegation. Other managers have staved off relegation with teams worse than ours.
• Everton unnecessarily delay the sacking of Frank Lampard. I mean, c'mon, this was weeks ago;

• Everton's board in self preservation mode/horrendous communication strategy/board creating civil war with their own fans.

I provided links as hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it's so bloody obvious and all those reasons are why I think we're going down.

As it is right now - I don't think there's 3 worse teams than us. I don't think there's 1 - Bournemouth battered us, and Southampton just beat us and making positive moves.

It's not a blip, this is the points per game for calendar year 2022.

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Nothing has changed.

Sure, the margins are tight at the bottom, and it wouldn't take much to change things but we haven't. We're comfortably bottom three, and other teams are fighting, we're meekly hoping with a board in self preservation mode.

I think Everton appointing Sean Dyche after Bournemouth spank us 7-1 over 2 games, or even after Wolves on boxing day, along with a few signings early January - Chris Wood/Danny Ings... even Arnautović type, most likely keep this side up. That's the margins. The base of the team is decent enough to keep us up, we just needed nous, pragmatism, a sprinkle of belief (all coming in the form of a new manager) and crucially, some attacking ability. Everton neglected the chance.

I still think a good experienced manager who's capable of dealing with situations on and off the pitch keeps us up. I think Allardyce or Moyes would keep us up - someone of that ilk. Whilst not great this team isn't a bottom 3 team and I think the reason we are largely where we are is down to Lampards inexperience and limitations. A good manager turns things around for us. The problem is, how long do the board let this keep going?

 

[paultheblue]

Not reading all that lad.

To summarise we are in the poo

Your welcome

 

[suey_11]

Someone mentioned us as a dinosaur of a club and not moved with the times.
Not sure if I agree with it totally but believe some elements to be true and those are the things that have been stopping us moving forward and now threatening us with relegation.

 

[Harryflashman]

I still think a good experienced manager who's capable of dealing with situations on and off the pitch keeps us up. I think Allardyce or Moyes would keep us up - someone of that ilk. Whilst not great this team isn't a bottom 3 team and I think the reason we are largely where we are is down to Lampards inexperience and limitations. A good manager turns things around for us. The problem is, how long do the board let this keep going?

I think even with half the season left , with the squad as it stands the way the fixtures pan out it’s a real ask for any manager to sort out this mess.

 

[trueblue84]

19 games in, and despite how grim we've been - there's only 2 points between 20th and 14th.

Talk of certain/inevitable relegation at this stage feels premature, but I thought I'd share a nice thread to cheer everyone on why I think we'll be relegated this season.

• Everton survive 2021/22 by the skin of our teeth.
• Everton end last season 19/20 for big chances created, 20/20 for chances created. [May] [June] [July] [August]
• Everton have a Director of Marketing and a Manager who have no credentials of navigating transfer markets. [June]
• Everton sell their 'talisman' in Richarlison - a player responsible for scoring/providing over a third of our goals [September].
• Everton perhaps aren't 'replacing' Richarlison, but Everton desperately needed to mitigate that loss. Everton try it through signing Dwight '1 assist 0 goal in previous season' McNeil, and Neal Maupay - the least 'number 9' in this Everton team you'll ever find. [September] [September]
• Everton start 2022/23 with a team less effective than they did 2021/22. [September]
• Everton play the first 6 (I think 6 could be wrong?) games without a recognised striker. Everton stay up by the skin of their teeth, months later they start a season vs Chelsea with Anthony Gordon upfront ducking out of aerial challenges with Koulibaly an Silva.
• Any manager has this Everton team in a relegation scrap. It's relegation fodder [July]. Frank Lampard has no credentials at all to suggest he's at least reducing the odds of relegation. Other managers have staved off relegation with teams worse than ours.
• Everton unnecessarily delay the sacking of Frank Lampard. I mean, c'mon, this was weeks ago;

• Everton's board in self preservation mode/horrendous communication strategy/board creating civil war with their own fans.

I provided links as hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it's so bloody obvious and all those reasons are why I think we're going down.

As it is right now - I don't think there's 3 worse teams than us. I don't think there's 1 - Bournemouth battered us, and Southampton just beat us and making positive moves.

It's not a blip, this is the points per game for calendar year 2022.

View attachment 201231

Nothing has changed.

Sure, the margins are tight at the bottom, and it wouldn't take much to change things but we haven't. We're comfortably bottom three, and other teams are fighting, we're meekly hoping with a board in self preservation mode.

I think Everton appointing Sean Dyche after Bournemouth spank us 7-1 over 2 games, or even after Wolves on boxing day, along with a few signings early January - Chris Wood/Danny Ings... even Arnautović type, most likely keep this side up. That's the margins. The base of the team is decent enough to keep us up, we just needed nous, pragmatism, a sprinkle of belief (all coming in the form of a new manager) and crucially, some attacking ability. Everton neglected the chance.

The problem with the sticking plaster approach of getting Dyche and some short term signings is that next season we will be back to the exact same again. We've been progressively getting weaker each year that moshiri has been at the club. We were incredibly lucky last year. If we survive this year, it will be next that we finally get relegated.

 

[The Binman]

We will be relegated because of the simple fact we are the worst team currently in the league, and by some distance. Either Frank changes, or he has to go. These players could and should be better than this. There is enough there to be further up the league, not by much, but definitely some.

Frank isn't going to change, so HAS to go... why the delay, its like watching a cat being run over, and it going through the death knell with Everton at the moment.

Is our board doing this on purpose?!

Ridiculous that nothing has changed over two weeks into the window, gives whoever else little chance to change anything.

 

[john jako]

Not enough pictures

 

[Lob]

Yeah i think you have it spot on. This is the year we are going down. We may have had a small chance if they had replaced FL last November when it was obvious it needed to be done but even then the same board would still be leading us on a downward spiral. It has always been inevitable until the leadership is changed.

The only tiny chance of preventing it now is immediate action from the owner as in sort the inept and criminal board out even if it just means putting a new professional in there and deal with the other idiots gradually and an immediate change in Manager.

It all falls down at the first stage because this owner isn't going to do anything anytime soon.

 

[Harryflashman]

Someone mentioned us as a dinosaur of a club and not moved with the times.
Not sure if I agree with it totally but believe some elements to be true and those are the things that have been stopping us moving forward and now threatening us with relegation.

The problem with the sticking plaster approach of getting Dyche and some short term signings is that next season we will be back to the exact same again. We've been progressively getting weaker each year that moshiri has been at the club. We were incredibly lucky last year. If we survive this year, it will be next that we finally get relegated.

How many times have we seen it , where teams circle the drain only for last gasp escapes only to eventually go ? We’ve flirted with it and done nothing to sort out the underlying issues .

 

[Joey66]

I think the biggest problem is we have been beaten by teams around us - My older brother who has been going to the game since 1958 - told me we are doomed financially, plus the team we have after spending almost 1/2 a billion - then just look at our squad now ?

 

[Toffeepot]

Our only hope was if we sacked Lampard after Bournemouth and got in someone like Dyche who would have gotten us 4 points minimum from those last two homegames. We kept Lampard and have suffered the consequences

At what point since Dyche was never guaranteed points from any game has Dyche become guaranteed to get points from a game? Since he stopped managing?

 

[Amokachi1995]

Sadly I've come to the same conclusion. I think the position is recoverable but nothing is being done about it.

I get the players aren't good enough point but results could be better with different tactics, some signings and some momentum.

I'm not hopeful.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

The fact it's the 19th January, we haven't signed a player, and Frank Lampard is still our manager after losing 3 home games in a row tells you all you need to know. The board have completely disappeared, checked out, waged war with the fans, and are content to watch us go down. We're down and no mistake. We'll finish 20th too.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

The problem with the sticking plaster approach of getting Dyche and some short term signings is that next season we will be back to the exact same again. We've been progressively getting weaker each year that moshiri has been at the club. We were incredibly lucky last year. If we survive this year, it will be next that we finally get relegated.

Sometimes you need a sticking plaster mate, otherwise it becomes gangrene an you lose a limb (relegation).

Dyche got Burnley promoted twice - joined in Oct, got them promoted. They went right back down, and then he got them back up first time of asking. We might need that experience.