Well, I'd enjoy winning at Anfield more than I would against, say, Bristol City yeah.
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Well, I'd enjoy winning at Anfield more than I would against, say, Bristol City yeah.
That stadium will be a Listed building before it's even completed.
It's gonna go down in 'Folklore' at this rate...
What is this " Winning " you talk of?
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
No club dies as long as there are fans to keep it alive and if the fans don’t care then it was dead anyway.
Yep. We should sack him win lose or draw on Saturday and take the 2 weeks to get a new manager and players in…….on loan obviously.19 games in, and despite how grim we've been - there's only 2 points between 20th and 14th.
Talk of certain/inevitable relegation at this stage feels premature, but I thought I'd share a nice thread to cheer everyone on why I think we'll be relegated this season.
- Everton survive 2021/22 by the skin of our teeth.
- Everton end last season 19/20 for big chances created, 20/20 for chances created. [May] [June] [July] [August]
- Everton have a Director of Marketing and a Manager who have no credentials of navigating transfer markets. [June]
- Everton sell their 'talisman' in Richarlison - a player responsible for scoring/providing over a third of our goals [September].
- Everton perhaps aren't 'replacing' Richarlison, but Everton desperately needed to mitigate that loss. Everton try it through signing Dwight '1 assist 0 goal in previous season' McNeil, and Neal Maupay - the least 'number 9' in this Everton team you'll ever find. [September] [September]
- Everton start 2022/23 with a team less effective than they did 2021/22. [September]
- Everton play the first 6 (I think 6 could be wrong?) games without a recognised striker. Everton stay up by the skin of their teeth, months later they start a season vs Chelsea with Anthony Gordon upfront ducking out of aerial challenges with Koulibaly an Silva.
- Any manager has this Everton team in a relegation scrap. It's relegation fodder [July]. Frank Lampard has no credentials at all to suggest he's at least reducing the odds of relegation. Other managers have staved off relegation with teams worse than ours.
- Everton unnecessarily delay the sacking of Frank Lampard. I mean, c'mon, this was weeks ago;
I provided links as hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it's so bloody obvious and all those reasons are why I think we're going down.
- Everton's board in self preservation mode/horrendous communication strategy/board creating civil war with their own fans.
As it is right now - I don't think there's 3 worse teams than us. I don't think there's 1 - Bournemouth battered us, and Southampton just beat us and making positive moves.
It's not a blip, this is the points per game for calendar year 2022.
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Nothing has changed.
Sure, the margins are tight at the bottom, and it wouldn't take much to change things but we haven't. We're comfortably bottom three, and other teams are fighting, we're meekly hoping with a board in self preservation mode.
I think Everton appointing Sean Dyche after Bournemouth spank us 7-1 over 2 games, or even after Wolves on boxing day, along with a few signings early January - Chris Wood/Danny Ings... even Arnautović type, most likely keep this side up. That's the margins. The base of the team is decent enough to keep us up, we just needed nous, pragmatism, a sprinkle of belief (all coming in the form of a new manager) and crucially, some attacking ability. Everton neglected the chance.
In essence, if we didn’t bounce back before the parachute payments end we will start the season after with a points deduction.
If the club survived relegation again it will be a Coventry scenario where we are paying rent to whoever owns the new stadium as what else is there to flog??
C'mon, that's not the same thing. We'd have as much chance of winning at Greyskull in League 2 than we would in the PL anyway.
Because we are very poor on and off the park
I believe we are going down and we are facing some sort of financial strife way beyond what we have seen up to now
My only hope is that there’s a club left in a couple of years, so you can at least have hope of moving back up the league (whether thats up from championship or from lower down…)
I will get fully behind Inchys team in League 2 in a few years time as all our former youth players plodding around the lower leagues come back to try rescue us.
My only hope is that there’s a club left in a couple of years, so you can at least have hope of moving back up the league (whether thats up from championship or from lower down…)
I will get fully behind Inchys team in League 2 in a few years time as all our former youth players plodding around the lower leagues come back to try rescue us.
I'm clinging onto the hope that we can put a run of wins together (Ala Newcastle last season) where they come from though, I don't know.
Abertonian
Player Valuation: £20m
Hard to argue with the initial post and maybe its our time. Certainly feels like the times when Sunderland and Villa went down after circling the drain.
However, the league is extremely tight, decisive action with the manager and getting some signings might be enough. We need more of a threat upfront but we have enough in this squad to expect to be higher. At the start of the season I thought (with DCL fit) we should be aiming 10-12th as a good season.
The longer they leave it to make the necessary changes the harder it will be.
However, the league is extremely tight, decisive action with the manager and getting some signings might be enough. We need more of a threat upfront but we have enough in this squad to expect to be higher. At the start of the season I thought (with DCL fit) we should be aiming 10-12th as a good season.
The longer they leave it to make the necessary changes the harder it will be.
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
There is that, however, there is no doubt of the managed decline on the pitch side of things.
Without being rude I don’t think anyone needs to see the facts or figures anymore with us.
Everyone at the club at the moment is crap, however this can all change. With not even a win, with a good performance from every player, fighting for the shirt, working hard, creating chances and most importantly having some bloody shots on goal. If we do this then we win games of football and if we survive this season it will be because of this.
I love Frank, I love his passion for the game and I like him as our boss. His record is awful though, 8 wins, one of them was Boreham Wood and 2 of them were against Palace at home. It’s just an awful record. I am all for…. ‘If you can’t win a game, don’t lose it’. If he would have adapted this philosophy against Wolves and Southampton at home then we would now be on 17 points with Wolves on 15 and Southampton 13.
Frank in my opinion needs to leave. However typical of us, he should have been gone after the Bournemouth disasters. We drag our feet, publicly back him, and he is steering us into a storm. Awful.
Everyone at the club at the moment is crap, however this can all change. With not even a win, with a good performance from every player, fighting for the shirt, working hard, creating chances and most importantly having some bloody shots on goal. If we do this then we win games of football and if we survive this season it will be because of this.
I love Frank, I love his passion for the game and I like him as our boss. His record is awful though, 8 wins, one of them was Boreham Wood and 2 of them were against Palace at home. It’s just an awful record. I am all for…. ‘If you can’t win a game, don’t lose it’. If he would have adapted this philosophy against Wolves and Southampton at home then we would now be on 17 points with Wolves on 15 and Southampton 13.
Frank in my opinion needs to leave. However typical of us, he should have been gone after the Bournemouth disasters. We drag our feet, publicly back him, and he is steering us into a storm. Awful.
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