Why I Think Everton Will Be Relegated

[COYB75]

19 games in, and despite how grim we've been - there's only 2 points between 20th and 14th.

Talk of certain/inevitable relegation at this stage feels premature, but I thought I'd share a nice thread to cheer everyone on why I think we'll be relegated this season.

• Everton survive 2021/22 by the skin of our teeth.
• Everton end last season 19/20 for big chances created, 20/20 for chances created. [May] [June] [July] [August]
• Everton have a Director of Marketing and a Manager who have no credentials of navigating transfer markets. [June]
• Everton sell their 'talisman' in Richarlison - a player responsible for scoring/providing over a third of our goals [September].
• Everton perhaps aren't 'replacing' Richarlison, but Everton desperately needed to mitigate that loss. Everton try it through signing Dwight '1 assist 0 goal in previous season' McNeil, and Neal Maupay - the least 'number 9' in this Everton team you'll ever find. [September] [September]
• Everton start 2022/23 with a team less effective than they did 2021/22. [September]
• Everton play the first 6 (I think 6 could be wrong?) games without a recognised striker. Everton stay up by the skin of their teeth, months later they start a season vs Chelsea with Anthony Gordon upfront ducking out of aerial challenges with Koulibaly an Silva.
• Any manager has this Everton team in a relegation scrap. It's relegation fodder [July]. Frank Lampard has no credentials at all to suggest he's at least reducing the odds of relegation. Other managers have staved off relegation with teams worse than ours.
• Everton unnecessarily delay the sacking of Frank Lampard. I mean, c'mon, this was weeks ago;

• Everton's board in self preservation mode/horrendous communication strategy/board creating civil war with their own fans.

I provided links as hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it's so bloody obvious and all those reasons are why I think we're going down.

As it is right now - I don't think there's 3 worse teams than us. I don't think there's 1 - Bournemouth battered us, and Southampton just beat us and making positive moves.

It's not a blip, this is the points per game for calendar year 2022.

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Nothing has changed.

Sure, the margins are tight at the bottom, and it wouldn't take much to change things but we haven't. We're comfortably bottom three, and other teams are fighting, we're meekly hoping with a board in self preservation mode.

I think Everton appointing Sean Dyche after Bournemouth spank us 7-1 over 2 games, or even after Wolves on boxing day, along with a few signings early January - Chris Wood/Danny Ings... even Arnautović type, most likely keep this side up. That's the margins. The base of the team is decent enough to keep us up, we just needed nous, pragmatism, a sprinkle of belief (all coming in the form of a new manager) and crucially, some attacking ability. Everton neglected the chance.

It does bring together a pretty grim set of stats and

The fans , Richarlison and Pickford kept us up. The club have marginalised one , sold and not replaced the other so we’re now reliant on Pickford creating an atmosphere on and off the pitch , scoring , creating and saving goals

Lets put him on free-kicks, penalty's and corners!

 

[Milkman]

Personally it’s over if the club goes down.

That's a real shame then.

I think I'll be seeing you on the Rotherham (A) matchday thread in September though.

 

[Harryflashman]

Do you think Wednesday fans think about that after they've won 5-0?

You support Everton, not the Premier League. I know there's a very real possibility of there no longer being an Everton if we get relegated, but I really don't understand the mindset that football is basically over because we're playing Swansea, not Southampton.

Of course not mate but it’s not just you it’s the generations that follow. We’re already becoming espanyol in our city but to compound that by being two divisions below them is a horrific thought for the future .

Also Wednesday can’t be winning that many games or they wouldn’t have played a couple of seasons in league one and I believe finished higher than about 12 in the championship 2 seasons in about 15 years . It’s hardly been nirvana for them.

I’ll still go the game whatever division we’re in but the future genuinely terrifies me if the worst were to happen .

 

[Milkman]

Of course not mate but it’s not just you it’s the generations that follow. We’re already becoming espanyol in our city but to compound that by being two divisions below them is a horrific thought for the future . Also Wednesday can’t be winning that many games or they wouldn’t have played a couple of seasons in league one and I believe finished higher than about 12 in the championship 2 seasons in about 15 years . It’s hardly been nirvana for them

Time to put that 'born, not manufactured' stuff to the test then!

 

[hktoffee]

That's a real shame then.

I think I'll be seeing you on the Rotherham (A) matchday thread in September though.

Of course I will still supporting Everton but when the team is made up by Championship standard players…very disappointing.

 

[Harryflashman]

Time to put that 'born, not manufactured' stuff to the test then!

I did edit my post to say I’ll still be there but trying to get future generations there is hard enough . Like I say it’s a worrying thought and just can’t pretend it isn’t .

 

[Harryflashman]

Of course I will still supporting Everton but when the team is made up by Championship standard players…very disappointing.

I mean it kind of already is

 

[hktoffee]

I mean it kind of already is

Opps. True…

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Do you think Wednesday fans think about that after they've won 5-0?

You support Everton, not the Premier League. I know there's a very real possibility of there no longer being an Everton if we get relegated, but I really don't understand the mindset that football is basically over because we're playing Swansea, not Southampton.

Not for me mate.

Winning 30% of the rest of this season would mean more than 100% in the championship IMO.

 

[overkill]

Leeds, Brentford, Liverpool and Wolves at home should never have been a defeat. That's 7 points right there.

We didn't loose to Liverpool at home

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Time to support the women and bin off the men

 

[Swartzy]

Ah, you've reached the bargaining stage.

Relegation does no club any favours mate, and I think our setup is one closer to Leeds and Sunderland.

could possibly add Pompey to that list ?

 

[RAFUH]

To summarise we are in the poo

Your welcome

Fixed

 

[Milkman]

Not for me mate.

Winning 30% of the rest of this season would mean more than 100% in the championship IMO.

I'm not going to change your mind, but football is a pyramid in structure, not enjoyment. Do we celebrate any less for winning 2-1 at Leeds because it isn't away at Bayern Munich in the CL?

Doubt we'd beat Leeds anyway though.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Do you think Wednesday fans think about that after they've won 5-0?

You support Everton, not the Premier League. I know there's a very real possibility of there no longer being an Everton if we get relegated, but I really don't understand the mindset that football is basically over because we're playing Swansea, not Southampton.

40 years ago perhaps - could have endured relegation because you come back up as the same club, to the same place. So you can afford to be philosophical about playing Rotherham and Swansea.
I think what people are credibly saying is that relegation is an existential threat to the club as of 2023. We bounce back up (v doubtful) or it's over.

I mean I hear what you're saying, we're all [Poor language removed] sick of this purgatory football in the cellar of the prem - but the alternative is not a regenerative spell in the second tier to get our [Poor language removed] together. It could be a legit catastrophe.