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Wimbledon 2023

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davek said:
Sinner was over pressing. But you have to do that with Djokovic to stand any hope on grass. He couldn't keep his footing.

Alcarez hits way too many half court balls to be successful against Novak. The big Serb will pin that lad back behind the court with deep ground strokes and pick him off when he cant deal with the pace and angles he gets.
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What's been your favourite match so far this tournament big D?
 
ArtetaMoney said:
Should be a cracking final, I think Djok will win but Alcaraz has played some great tennis this fortnight and could get the win if he plays well on Sunday.
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I'm excited. It's the one we all wanted to see. They're both in form. Alcaraz has probably looked less vulnerable, but it's Djokovic on Centre Court in a final. He's likely to elevate. The question is whether Alcaraz can find that next gear, and I wouldn't put it past him.
 

Martin Alvito said:
I'm excited. It's the one we all wanted to see. They're both in form. Alcaraz has probably looked less vulnerable, but it's Djokovic on Centre Court in a final. He's likely to elevate. The question is whether Alcaraz can find that next gear, and I wouldn't put it past him.
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Djokovic has this skill of just grinding his opponents down and it makes them play worse than they normally would, I think if Alcaraz can get past that and play his own game, he’ll have a good chance of winning.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Bundesliga has more competition than men's tennis. What a snorefest.
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Eubanks has been a revelation, Murray is done sadly, Federer is gone, Nadal is finishing up, Djokovic has a season or two at most to clean up what he can, then the next era begins. Borg gave up, Becker burnt out, Sampras faded significantly, then there were the Hewitt years. Grass is now even more specialist than it has ever been.
 
Rita_Poon said:
Eubanks has been a revelation, Murray is done sadly, Federer is gone, Nadal is finishing up, Djokovic has a season or two at most to clean up what he can, then the next era begins. Borg gave up, Becker burnt out, Sampras faded significantly, then there were the Hewitt years. Grass is now even more specialist than it has ever been.
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The same few players have won everything for 15 years or more. It's deadly boring.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
The same few players have won everything for 15 years or more. It's deadly boring.
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2000Pete Sampras (USA)Pat Rafter6-7 (10-12), 7-6 (7-5), 6-4,6-2
1999Pete Sampras (USA)A. Agassi63 64 75
1998Pete Sampras (USA)G. Ivanisevic67 76 64 36 62
1997Pete Sampras (USA)C. Pioline64 62 64
1996Richard KrajicekM. Washington63 64 63
1995Pete Sampras (USA)B. Becker67 62 64 62
1994Pete Sampras (USA)G. Ivanisevic76 76 60
1993Pete Sampras (USA)J. Courier76 76 36 63
1992Andre AgassiG. Ivanisevic67 64 64 16 64
1991Michael StichB. Becker64 76 64
1990Stefan EdbergB. Becker62 62 36 36 64
1989Boris BeckerS. Edberg60 76 64
1988Stefan EdbergB. Becker46 76 64 62
1987Pat CashI. Lendl76 62 75
1986Boris BeckerI. Lendl64 63 75
1985Boris BeckerK. Curren63 67 76 64
1984John McEnroeJ. Connors61 61 62
1983John McEnroeC. Lewis62 62 62
1982Jimmy ConnorsJ. McEnroe36 63 67 76 64
1981John McEnroeB. Borg
Sampras 7
Becker 3
McEnroe 3
Edberg 2
Krajicek 1
Agassi 1
Stich 1
Cash 1
Connors 1+
That's not tons of variety in that 20 years. Becker 4 times a losing finalist, Sampras never.
 

Bruce Wayne said:
The same few players have won everything for 15 years or more. It's deadly boring.
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The new generation is beginning to arrive. It will probably be like when Tiger Woods broke, once Djokovic loses a step. Lot of good younger players that just can't quite slay the dragon, yet. Alcaraz and Medvedev both posted one, Tsitsipas and Ruud both have multiple finals to their credit, plus the random finalists.

Remove the brick walls, and we're probably back to the '80s and '90s where the glory was spread around. Only men's player to post three in a year back then was Wilander, during that crazy year of his. Women's tennis, by contrast, was just a few all-time greats whaling on one another for most of that era. Great finals to watch, though.
 
Rita_Poon said:
2000Pete Sampras (USA)Pat Rafter6-7 (10-12), 7-6 (7-5), 6-4,6-2
1999Pete Sampras (USA)A. Agassi63 64 75
1998Pete Sampras (USA)G. Ivanisevic67 76 64 36 62
1997Pete Sampras (USA)C. Pioline64 62 64
1996Richard KrajicekM. Washington63 64 63
1995Pete Sampras (USA)B. Becker67 62 64 62
1994Pete Sampras (USA)G. Ivanisevic76 76 60
1993Pete Sampras (USA)J. Courier76 76 36 63
1992Andre AgassiG. Ivanisevic67 64 64 16 64
1991Michael StichB. Becker64 76 64
1990Stefan EdbergB. Becker62 62 36 36 64
1989Boris BeckerS. Edberg60 76 64
1988Stefan EdbergB. Becker46 76 64 62
1987Pat CashI. Lendl76 62 75
1986Boris BeckerI. Lendl64 63 75
1985Boris BeckerK. Curren63 67 76 64
1984John McEnroeJ. Connors61 61 62
1983John McEnroeC. Lewis62 62 62
1982Jimmy ConnorsJ. McEnroe36 63 67 76 64
1981John McEnroeB. Borg
Sampras 7
Becker 3
McEnroe 3
Edberg 2
Krajicek 1
Agassi 1
Stich 1
Cash 1
Connors 1+
That's not tons of variety in that 20 years. Becker 4 times a losing finalist, Sampras never.
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I like how we immediately took opposite sides on that issue.
 
Rita_Poon said:
I remember the colossal dislike for Sampras for some reason and the massive love in for boris until he squirrelled away a load of other peoples money and said he hadn't.
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Petey didn't have the big personality a lot of the other people at the top of the game had. Same reason people didn't like Lendl. "Robot" and other epithets.
 

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