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Dell Boy said:
One funny thing about any debate involving Muslims, Jews and the knuckle-dragging hard right is their mutual hatred of homosexuality. The irony is brilliant.

I'd personally support a law that for the EDL, BNP, UKIP, Muslims against crusades and all their cohorts to appear in public they first had to sign a declaration that said "bum sex is fine and dandy"
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You really should read up on the edl. Homosexuals are welcome.
 
The army and Muslims are not to blame for the brutal murder of Lee Rigby, the blame lies solely with those two mentalists. But the 'War on terror' has played a part in fuelling extremism.
 
We should also remember that drugs played a major role in all this. Its become far to exceptable to take drugs in this country, bet these "men" started on somthing like Cannabis and worked there way up to the hard stuff. What is so hard to understand people! Its a drug, it DRUGS the senses!
 
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Ratkiller said:
The uk and the USA couldn't care less about restoring order to Afghanistan. It was all about running a pipeline through the country.
We had to facilitate a coup in Georgia first to make it possible. And since the Georgian constitution forbids foreign troops on its soil blackwater was used instead. A private army doing Americas bidding.

And what are these western morals you speak of?

Is it this?
http://youtu.be/5rXPrfnU3G0
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the Taliban were supporting the gas pipe but couldn't secure the northern part of the country , if that was the sole reason for war why not help them secure that part of the country we had helped them against the Russians why not the northern tribes? less money no troops on the ground ect, and who in there right minds would invest billions in a pipeline that runs through hostile tribal lands and would be a sitting target for any one looking to disrupt it .
western morals , well here is a start , self-criticism, the disinterested search for truth, separation of church and state, rule of law, equality before the law, freedom of conscience thought and expression, human rights, liberal democracy ,
if you asking me what i think about that youtube link its a disgrace no getting away from that ,but its war zone and if people point stuff at you im sure you would fire first then ask questions later , but the reaction after that is totally wrong, like i have said we should be there anyway for oil gas or anything else, plenty here to sort out, not that i have any faith in anybody doing it.
 
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edge said:
i dont honestly know anymore
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Edge... Our lads are ace.. and will do whatever.. but even the slightest ' Whats the point ? ' is alarm bells ringing here for me.
I did conflict, and never really could be ar*ed with it, but there was always 'a point ' .. Hope that makes sense..
 
noharmdone said:
Edge... Our lads are ace.. and will do whatever.. but even the slightest ' Whats the point ? ' is alarm bells ringing here for me.
I did conflict, and never really could be ar*ed with it, but there was always 'a point ' .. Hope that makes sense..
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i do mate, i think anyway to late to be getting deep , goodnight it wasnt you i was leaving the thread about mate it has drifted to far away from the subject of the death at woolwich. so that why im out of it
 
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Bluenose1995 said:
UKIP are the only party that can sort this country out, want more of the same, keep voting the same 3 tossers in
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Tax and the economy
• Merge income tax and national insurance into a flat 31% for all starting at £11,500. Scrap employers' NI with revenue recouped from corporation tax, VAT or reduced welfare.
• Cut state spending to 1997 levels with loss of two million public sector jobs, replaced by one million new manufacturing jobs and at least another million created because of Ukip's lower tax environment.
• Council tax cut paid for by axeing landfill tax and cull of town hall "non jobs". The defence equipment budget will be doubled to £8bn, £3.5bn will be spent on nuclear power plants to provide 50% of energy, and more prisons will be built.

Immigration
• Five-year freeze on immigration for permanent settlement followed by 50,000 annual cap.
• Work permits to be time-limited and overstaying made a crime. No amnesty for illegal immigrants: all returned to home country.
• Minimum five-year wait for British citizenship with no rights to benefits and all asylum seekers to be held in secure units.• End active promotion of the doctrine of multiculturalism.

Crime
• Life sentences mean life.
• Deport dangerous imams, terror suspects and wanted criminals more easily by scrapping the Human Rights Act.
• Double prison places and create "boot camps" for young offenders.
• Scrap the "politically correct" Crown Prosecution Service and return to local police prosecutions.

Defence
• Increase spending by 40%, double the size of the Territorial Army and increase total armed forces numbers by 25%.
• Buy three new aircraft carriers and 50 more Lightning fighter jets.
• Arm four new submarines with US nuclear missiles.

Health
• Franchise out key services including hospitals and GP surgeries to companies and charities.
• Create voucher system to allow people to opt out of NHS system entirely.
• Matrons to run hospitals, not non-clinically trained managers.
• Free eye tests and dental checks.
• Smoking rooms in pubs.

Welfare
• Non means-tested "basic cash benefit" for low earners and unemployed. Jobseekers allowance and incapacity benefit is scrapped.
• Child benefit for the first three children only.
• No benefits for anyone who has not lived in the UK for five years.

Environment
• Support coal-fired power and oppose wind farms.
• Stop funding UN's climate change panel.
• Ban schools from showing Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth.
• Incentivise the production of electric cars.
• Build 200mph rail lines from London to Newcastle and Exeter.


In UkipWorld it is forever 1953.
 
That really is a laughable set of policies. A personal highlight being "Cut state spending to 1997 levels with loss of two million public sector jobs, replaced by one million new manufacturing jobs and at least another million created because of Ukip's lower tax environment."

It's just a cover for a essentially nasty and discriminatory party. The UK has always been a focal point for mass immigration. It has happened for centuries and centuries. There is no such thing as a "pure" Englishman. Never has been.

Immigration is fine on the right terms - that no hate agenda is tolerated. Integration should be actively encouraged not feared. The idea that you can segregate and it doesn't just fester and fuel increased animosity between ethnic groups is brilliant.

Clint Planet said:
Tax and the economy
• Merge income tax and national insurance into a flat 31% for all starting at £11,500. Scrap employers' NI with revenue recouped from corporation tax, VAT or reduced welfare.
• Cut state spending to 1997 levels with loss of two million public sector jobs, replaced by one million new manufacturing jobs and at least another million created because of Ukip's lower tax environment.
• Council tax cut paid for by axeing landfill tax and cull of town hall "non jobs". The defence equipment budget will be doubled to £8bn, £3.5bn will be spent on nuclear power plants to provide 50% of energy, and more prisons will be built.

Immigration
• Five-year freeze on immigration for permanent settlement followed by 50,000 annual cap.
• Work permits to be time-limited and overstaying made a crime. No amnesty for illegal immigrants: all returned to home country.
• Minimum five-year wait for British citizenship with no rights to benefits and all asylum seekers to be held in secure units.• End active promotion of the doctrine of multiculturalism.

Crime
• Life sentences mean life.
• Deport dangerous imams, terror suspects and wanted criminals more easily by scrapping the Human Rights Act.
• Double prison places and create "boot camps" for young offenders.
• Scrap the "politically correct" Crown Prosecution Service and return to local police prosecutions.

Defence
• Increase spending by 40%, double the size of the Territorial Army and increase total armed forces numbers by 25%.
• Buy three new aircraft carriers and 50 more Lightning fighter jets.
• Arm four new submarines with US nuclear missiles.

Health
• Franchise out key services including hospitals and GP surgeries to companies and charities.
• Create voucher system to allow people to opt out of NHS system entirely.
• Matrons to run hospitals, not non-clinically trained managers.
• Free eye tests and dental checks.
• Smoking rooms in pubs.

Welfare
• Non means-tested "basic cash benefit" for low earners and unemployed. Jobseekers allowance and incapacity benefit is scrapped.
• Child benefit for the first three children only.
• No benefits for anyone who has not lived in the UK for five years.

Environment
• Support coal-fired power and oppose wind farms.
• Stop funding UN's climate change panel.
• Ban schools from showing Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth.
• Incentivise the production of electric cars.
• Build 200mph rail lines from London to Newcastle and Exeter.


In UkipWorld it is forever 1953.
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Bluenose1995 said:
UKIP are the only party that can sort this country out, want more of the same, keep voting the same 3 tossers in
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That seems to be the only reason anyone wants to vote for them. They're not one of the main three parties and not the BNP. Their policies are absolute cloudcuckooland stuff and Farage is as much part of the establishment as any of them. He's a ****ing snake.
 

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