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This is bigger than Ukraine. The US has shown itself to be an unstable, untrustworthy ally. Other nations will be looking elsewhere for defence deals now. Murica just killed its own market.

Canada and Portugal have just pulled out of F-35 deals (I know you know this by the way mate, just general awareness).

I've read lots about "kill switches" which have "supposedly" scared countries out of buying, personally I find it hard to believe they could implement such a thing, certainly nothing within any individual airframe anyway without the partner nation being aware.

They could certainly pull the plug on support; ITAR being an incredibly prohibitive entity already.
 
Canada and Portugal have just pulled out of F-35 deals (I know you know this by the way mate, just general awareness).

I've read lots about "kill switches" which have "supposedly" scared countries out of buying, personally I find it hard to believe they could implement such a thing, certainly nothing within any individual airframe anyway without the partner nation being aware.

They could certainly pull the plug on support; ITAR being an incredibly prohibitive entity already.
Aye. Certain UK and European intelligence assets are dependent on US hardware, software and airframes. I’m unaware of “kill switches” but the US can deffo dictate terms of usage. As you say, support, spares and logistics are three real “kill switches”. Turn them off and you negate the asset.
 
Canada and Portugal have just pulled out of F-35 deals (I know you know this by the way mate, just general awareness).

I've read lots about "kill switches" which have "supposedly" scared countries out of buying, personally I find it hard to believe they could implement such a thing, certainly nothing within any individual airframe anyway without the partner nation being aware.

They could certainly pull the plug on support; ITAR being an incredibly prohibitive entity already.
Dont F-35's require software updates, all very computer heavy, if there is updates required then there could absolutely be a kill switch.
 
Dont F-35's require software updates, all very computer heavy, if there is updates required then there could absolutely be a kill switch.

No doubt, but it'll require ground equipment and a manual upload, not exactly an automatic update online like a laptop.
Are you implying that America would give out software that would 'kill' their aircraft when uploaded?
That will, over time, induce limited capability up to a point where the aircraft is redundant, that also falls under the 'support' I mentioned.
 

No doubt, but it'll require ground equipment and a manual upload, not exactly an automatic update online like a laptop.
Are you implying that America would give out software that would 'kill' their aircraft when uploaded?
That will, over time, induce limited capability up to a point where the aircraft is redundant, that also falls under the 'support' I mentioned.
No I'm not saying that they will do that, I'm saying that if a system needs updates then the ability to kill it is there. I'd imagine that all modern war equipment likely needs updates so the makers would have the ability to kill it.. So while the talk of an inbuilt kill switch is rubbish the ability to have it not be as effective or not work at all is there in some capacity.
 
No I'm not saying that they will do that, I'm saying that if a system needs updates then the ability to kill it is there. I'd imagine that all modern war equipment likely needs updates so the makers would have the ability to kill it.. So while the talk of an inbuilt kill switch is rubbish the ability to have it not be as effective or not work at all is there in some capacity.

Of course anything electrical can be killed, however what would stop the affected components being switched out for other serviceable assets?

Also, let's pretend that Lockheed would do something as astoundingly stupid as to release a software update knowing it will cause catastrophic damage to aircraft paid for by allies, any fleet wide update is carried out over a long period of time dictated by flying/fleet requirements and it would become very quickly evident after loading to the first aircraft what this software load has done and wouldn't be carried out on the rest of the fleet.

No one is saying it's impossible, as discussed yesterday, if they wanted to achieve it they would just remove support such as spares, updates, logistics etc.
 

Impressed this thread has got to 27 pages.

Well done everyone and particularly the alt right bishes who are wearing our leash around their necks to post in a way that’s almost compatible with decent society. See, you can do it lads.
Nothing exemplifies 'decent society' more than a poster saying he hopes Donald Trump and Elon Musk are both assassinated and over twenty posters liking the comment.
 

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