Yannick Bolasie

[ToffeeTim]

He's been better than I expected. Hopefully more of the same to fully win me round.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It's just the way it is. When has it ever been the case that a player signed for big money doesn't get a closer inspection in terms of value for money?

Yeah and on "closer inspection" so far he looks boss.

 

[dholliday]

fee by-the-by he seems a good lad, has energy in his play and sometimes comes up with the odd moment of quality...fine with him up to now

 

[RFUS]

It's just the way it is. When has it ever been the case that a player signed for big money doesn't get a closer inspection in terms of value for money?

Of course they do, but you're missing my point. Any good or bad feelings from that shouldn't be directed at the player as his price is completely out of his hands.

You pay what you have to to get the players you want. Gueye had a release clause so we got him for little, Stek wasn't wanted so he was almost free but Bolasie was a key player at his club and they wanted the money to sign Benteke and were in a position to turn down bids that didn't meet their valuation. So what do we do? Not sign someone the manager wants?

 

[DanEFC92]

From the Niasse thread

Del's reply to Dave

Dave's reply to Del

That's some mighty fine police work, Lou.

 

[davek]

That's some mighty fine police work, Lou.

I dont know what it's supposed to 'prove'...pre-Derby bravado most likely.

Ho hum.

 

[davek]

Of course they do, but you're missing my point. Any good or bad feelings from that shouldn't be directed at the player as his price is completely out of his hands.

You pay what you have to to get the players you want. Gueye had a release clause so we got him for little, Stek wasn't wanted so he was almost free but Bolasie was a key player at his club and they wanted the money to sign Benteke and were in a position to turn down bids that didn't meet their valuation. So what do we do? Not sign someone the manager wants?

I dont make the rules up mate. I just know them. Player A costs not much: get's less scrutiny; player B costs an arm and a leg: get's much more attention and criticism if the fee isn't looking like value for money.

 

[ianefc]

I dont know what it's supposed to 'prove'...pre-Derby bravado most likely.

Ho hum.

I thought it was obvious, you used Bolasie as a positive reference point, Del disagreed, you then posted what you thought the 'Bolasie type' would be capable of.

 

[RFUS]

I dont make the rules up mate. I just know them. Player A costs not much: get's less scrutiny; player B costs an arm and a leg: get's much more attention and criticism if the fee isn't looking like value for money.

Stop being immature Dave, you don't need to go out of your way to nit pick about someone who's been playing well in a team that is playing well (a player you previously seemed to admire, judging by the vaulting above).

But you do it, not because "that's the way it goes" but because you've nailed your colours to the mast so firmly you're still stuck on the Good Ship Martinez, even after it sunk about 18 months ago.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I thought it was obvious, you used Bolasie as a positive reference point, Del disagreed, you then posted what you thought the 'Bolasie type' would be capable of.

I think that's called a full ball snooker.

In fact it's akin to a snooker ball in a sock tbh.

 

[banno]

Think the Bolasie signing has a little to do with Rom staying. Rom actually rates Bolasie and it wouldn't surprise me that he was recommended by Rom. There are quotes etc in various places so please don't ask where I heard just trust me.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

It's just the way it is. When has it ever been the case that a player signed for big money doesn't get a closer inspection in terms of value for money?

That's true but at the same time it can't be the only measure of a player. At the end of the day, if he helps to make us a better team I'll be happy with the signing. Time will tell in that respect but as far as I'm concerned, so far, the signs are good.

 

[Rook]

I've seen this feller play now in Palace colours and for Everton and my opinion hasn't changed one iota. If you see a top professional footballer there (and at £25M he should be judged as such) then you must see a different player to me. He has pace and a trick, but he's very wasteful given that he is the focus of almost all our attacking intent.

CP basically traded Bolasie for Benetke. I think every CP fan would make this trade. I rate Benetke and he's arguably the better player who was just stuck playing a system at the RS which didn't suit him. Does that mean we should have spent 25M on Benetke if the RS offered him up to us instead? No he wasn't going to make this club better.

Geri, Coleman, and Kev are all wide players who want to get into box. Baines doesn't have the legs or a in his prime Pinnear to work with anymore and isn't pushing up as much. Lennon is decent at crosses but they are all of of the low flat variety (also he likes to cross from inside the box) which would be fine if our CF was a midget like Michael Owen. Also Lennon isn't good enough to be an everyday player. We had no width. Bolasie provides it and he's dragging defenders out wide. Plus it was a sellers market (there was nothing Stones did last year to suggest he was a 50M player) and we had to buy someone proven instead of someone raw while we still have Rom.

On Coleman's goal on Saturday he only had to beat one defender with that top of box cut to the left that everyone knows he's always going to do. Last year there clubs were baiting him into that move where there would 2 defenders packed in waiting to disposses him. I'd like to think that's becasue Bolasie's presence is dragging defenders wide now that we finally have a threat of a cross.

He's not a superstar, or even a star, he may not even be as good as say Witsel. He's just a good player helping make our other guys around him better (all the while Witsel is permabenched behind Gana). It was an expensive but extremely smart move to go out and get a player like him. The flanks are now one of our club's deepest position and we aren't sunk if Geri goes on one his month long slumps and/or when Kev's hamstring goes full-Gibson. Also don't forget, Bolasie at his best playing counter, which we will still have to do against some of the top sides we haven't played yet and has a track record of putting a hurt on sides like the RS.

 

[davek]

That's true but at the same time it can't be the only measure of a player. At the end of the day, if he helps to make us a better team I'll be happy with the signing. Time will tell in that respect but as far as I'm concerned, so far, the signs are good.

He receives the bulk of our out balls. So I'd expect impact. He's improved us yes. But it's not something I haven't already said myself. If Mirallas is the only option then £25M or not he's worth having in.

It's early days and he's done ok. But I see wastefulness that hopefully Koeman can cut out of his game...he'll need to if he's continually looking to use him as a launch pad for attacks.

 

[davids]

I dont make the rules up mate. I just know them. Player A costs not much: get's less scrutiny; player B costs an arm and a leg: get's much more attention and criticism if the fee isn't looking like value for money.