2018/19 Yerry Mina

[GrandOldTeam]

Stop the world.

 

[Papa Shango]

I'm mixed race and it does upset me that all people think about when talking to me is my massive wang.

I mean I'm much more than just that...

Seriously though it's just a crap route one chant.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Crap chant. A bit cringe. But certainly no racist intent that I can see.

Should still nip it in the bud.

 

[Khalekan]

Marco Silva insists he will continue to encourage Yerry Mina to play out from the back despite the defender gifting a goal to Manchester City.

The Everton boss admits the Colombian was guilty of a “mistake”as he cleared the ball straight to Ilkay Gundogan who started a move that was finished off by Gabriel Jesus.

Silva says he was more frustrated with the way his side defended for City's second and third goals – headers by Jesus and Raheem Sterling – but the Blues manager was keen to shoulder the “responsibility” for the loss at the Etihad.

“Of course, we have a style and a way to play,” Silva said.

“But what is not normal in our team even when they try to block us on the side – and not just Mina but for all of our defenders – is to try to put the ball in the other side.

“When a team-mate is open try to find them, if they block then the ball has to go forward or you can go to Jordan if there is no solution, clear the ball and it is something we had planned.

“In that moment Mina knows what we have to do, he made a mistake but it is part of the game and I don't want to put all the fault on him because it is not fair, I am here to take the responsibility for what happened in the game but it is a mistake.

“But for me, the second and third goals we conceded are worse because in those moments we had all the conditions to do it differently.

“Mistakes can happen, City lost two or three balls when Ederson took some risks, when Otamendi took some risks, it is the idea of the coach.

“Of course, it is not a normal pass in that moment and it's a big learning curve, not just for Mina, but for us as a team.

“When you take positives it is always important to improve and take some confidence and when something happens in not a normal way, we have to learn from that.”

Silva headed into the City game having expressed concerns about the manner of the goals conceded against Newcastle and Watford and admits that he is uneasy with a growing trend.

“It is a concern, you know me and my players know me as well,” he said.

“We have a clear style, we are an offensive team and we created chances against City. That is not easy for clubs to come here and create these chances.

“But we have to be more solid as a team.

“For us to attack well we have to be solid and defend well as a team.”

That wasn’t even a case of “playout from the back”.

It was a hoof....from almost his own goal line.

 

[EverBlue92]

Countries gone to the dogs

 

[Khalekan]

Song should be binned not for any racist reason, just because it is cringeworthy.

 

[larbert toffee]

At the age of 58 I see myself as something of an inbetweenie where political correctness lies,I can honestly see the argument from both sides, some of the wordsmiths debating on here are seriously both brilliant and amusing (which I can't match) and put politicians to shame.

Here's my take on it, it is a funny song,it may be offensive to dogooders, is it offensive to Mina? who knows, the club officials have probably had a wee smirk as they've typed 'the club are investigating'

The upshot is we can't have our cake and eat it, the club unfortunately can't just sit and ignore it once the complaints start coming in, the bulk of us want to stamp out racism and although this is sung as positive support for one of our players it is racial stereotyping whichever way you look at it.

 

[Milkman]

It's just a crap chant sang by morons. Why sing it when we already have a better one?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Nonsense. The evaluation of it isn't based on how funny it is - it's based on intent. The intent is parody and entertainment, specifically support, via stereotype.

A bad joke that is similar to a good joke isn't racist because it's less funny.

What am I defending? Free speech and common sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Buck

The stereotype of black guys as being very muscular with big wangs has a long history of use by the likes of the KKK. I'm not offended by the song, but it is crass nonetheless.

 

[Walken]

Anyone creating footy chants on the internet should be banned for being a cringy bell

 

[CRIMHEAD]

That wasn’t even a case of “playout from the back”.

It was a hoof....from almost his own goal line.

Because Pickford put him under pressure with a bad pass or his own. Mina is going to have mistakes, but I don’t think we’ll will see too many with the ball.

 

[LocalNative]

An I am sure they are not offended at all by being called that.....

Why is it some people forget that they can be offensive without out referring to a stereotype until they hear others stereotype. I am of Asian ethnicity and am slightly overweight. I am more offended by comments about my weight than I am with racial stereotypes. One insult just shows ignorance, which isn't a big deal, the other is a personal comment aimed directly at me that's meant to hurt, insult or embarrass. Just my opinion.

Political correctness is nuts nowadays.

Nail on head with that final bit... that's your opinion. There are casual racism undertones within the song, you might not find it offensive, those that sing it might not find it offensive but you can't assume Yerry or other persons wouldn't find it offensive.

It's a garbage song, they'll get a slap on the wrists and we'll move on. Some education on the subject would be welcome though.

 

[Walken]

The difference is, those are funny, that song isn't. It's lame, and when the "offensive" things are the sole basis of it, with nothing redeeming, that's when it becomes an issue. Like, we got a black Colombian player, we need a song about his big [Poor language removed] and cocaine habit. Doesn't mention Everton or football or his ability or anything relevant once.

All the people defending it and saying people are offended too easily nowadays, what are you defending? It's a terrible song, not funny in the slightest and looks bad on us as a whole. I honestly don't know what's so hard to understand.

It's the usual suspects mate, it's like hearing the opinion of a top gear audience in a post

 

[EverBlue92]

Nail on head with that final bit... that's your opinion. There are casual racism undertones within the song, you might not find it offensive, those that sing it might not find it offensive but you can't assume Yerry or other persons wouldn't find it offensive.

It's a garbage song, they'll get a slap on the wrists and we'll move on. Some education on the subject would be welcome though.

Some education on the subject?

Like not all black fellas have big wangs or not every columbian is a coke baron?

I think people know this mate, its just certain sections of our society are determined to stigmatise any form of humour in this country.

How many times do the simpsons joke about British peoples teeth? Just bloody get over it imo far too many idiots causing division in this country over nothing whilst real problems go unchallenged.

Post Raheem its going to be a witchhunt in the media over the next 12-18 months - look at the Mails article implying our fans were abusing Watfords Success...

 

[Khalekan]

Is there any group of people more subject to, for want of a better word, “racist” stereotyping at English football grounds than us?

For decades we have had to listen to all sorts of idiots imploring us to “sign on” or go look for food in the dustbin.

Never, ever have I heard a world of censure from the press or from the football honchoes.

Nor do I want one.

Yet a couple of our fans singing a mindless ditty about the size of a fellows member is deemed a crime against the recreationally offended ergo the pitchforks are out for us.