2018/19 Yerry Mina

[Deleted member 38674]

Cathcart was excellent against us.

I like Lascelles a lot but he would not be without risk if we were to go for him. That's kind of the market we are in right now though, good young players who may or may not be able to take the step up to the next level.

Does Lascelles qualify as a young player? 26 this year. Don't get me wrong, I think he'd be our best centre-back but I'm not sure his ceiling is too much ahead of where he is now.

 

[messymascot]

If we play a 3 next year I think Mina would be perfect for the middle role if he had 2 reasonable quick centre backs either side. He could bring the ball out and being so tall would be good as the spare man to attack the ball. If we play a 4 he will need someone quick alongside and either a very good number 6 un front or a full back alongside who is more solid defensively. I would definitely like to see him play every game between now and the end of the season so he can get more adapted.

 

[Papa Shango]

Does Lascelles qualify as a young player? 26 this year. Don't get me wrong, I think he'd be our best centre-back but I'm not sure his ceiling is too much ahead of where he is now.

Yeah it does for me. Could get a good 8 years out of a player like that and still gives some leeway in case we needed/wanted to sell him in a few years.

 

[Bluewolf]

well zouma is blameless because it's keane fault

So when attackers just run off defenders that defender is blameless? Okay I'll remember that

 

[Bluewolf]

Mate, there is no need for the patronising/passive aggressive response.

You are the one who tried to argue that Keane is superior to Zouma and illustrated your point with an example in which Keane made the biggest blunder of anyone.

Btw his name is Keane, not Kean.

My apologies I've just been trying to explain the same point over and over again.

To be fair I brought up about 5 different examples of zoumas lack of defensive intelligence/ just letting plays run off him. All together they show my point but everyone has totally missed my point and only picked up on my mention of the vardy goal.

My point is for that goal that although it is keanes and walcotts fault it highlights perfectly zoumas lack of defensive intelligence and ability to sniff out danger. Instead making the initial mistake and hoping for his pace to get him out of trouble.

 

[Bluewolf]

You are genuinely mad to even think Zouma has any kind of blame for that Vardy goal. It was Walcott's inability to head the ball forward followed by Keane's inability to control a ball. Then it was just a straight race for the ball that Vardy isn't going to lose. Zouma makes mistakes like all of our players do, because they are all rubbish, but this is absolutely nothing to do with Zouma. You've used a dead weird example to showcase Zouma's defensive ability.

You could’ve picked so many other goals to be fair mate.

In my original post I raised around 5 different examples of zouma lack of defensive intelligence or ability to sniff out danger but everyone has just jumped on the vardy goal example. I even said in the post that not all the goals I mentioned were his fault but they were still examples of this.

 

[ijjysmith]

It’s not gone great so far for him.

 

[evertonarntwe]

So when attackers just run off defenders that defender is blameless? Okay I'll remember that

No when your centre half stands on the ball and loses it it's their fault

Not quite grasping this are you

 

[Bluewolf]

No when your centre half stands on the ball and loses it it's their fault

Not quite grasping this are you

Haha oh, the irony in that statment lol

 

[bring the ghost on]

To be fair I brought up about 5 different examples of zoumas lack of defensive intelligence/ just letting plays run off him. All together they show my point but everyone has totally missed my point and only picked up on my mention of the vardy goal.

Maybe refresh our memory on a few of Zoumas other howlers (of which I'm sure there are plenty). The Vardy goal obviously isn't doing you any favours at this stage.

 

[evertonarntwe]

Maybe refresh our memory on a few of Zoumas other howlers (of which I'm sure there are plenty). The Vardy goal obviously isn't doing you any favours at this stage.

He's been told this by half the forum and he's still going on abar it

Weirdo

 

[Bluewolf]

He's been told this by half the forum and he's still going on abar it

Weirdo

You're a proper gimp you

 

[Bluewolf]

Maybe refresh our memory on a few of Zoumas other howlers (of which I'm sure there are plenty). The Vardy goal obviously isn't doing you any favours at this stage.

Well from recent memory there is the derby where he let origi run right past him when pickford makes a mess of it. The game against Newcastle when he fell asleep and rondon scored. When he had that brain fart against spurs and flattened pickford for sons goal. Against Bournemouth in the first half when he got completely out muscled by king and they had a chance on goal (by Brooks hitting the post I think). The vardy goal obviously. The man city goal where he was so caught up ball watching he forgot to jump and gave laporte a free header. how bad he was against Lincoln against quite possibly the worst striker I've ever seen.

I'm not saying he's at fault for all of these goals obviously but each and everyone of them highlights his lack of defensive intelligence, ability to snuff out danger or even just his positional awareness.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

He's been told this by half the forum and he's still going on abar it

Weirdo

You're a proper gimp you

Break time over boys. Hear that bell? Back into class. Soon be home time.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Well from recent memory there is the derby where he let origi run right past him when pickford makes a mess of it. The game against Newcastle when he fell asleep and rondon scored. When he had that brain fart against spurs and flattened pickford for sons goal. Against Bournemouth in the first half when he got completely out muscled by king and they had a chance on goal (by Brooks hitting the post I think). The vardy goal obviously. The man city goal where he was so caught up ball watching he forgot to jump and gave laporte a free header. how bad he was against Lincoln against quite possibly the worst striker I've ever seen.

I'm not saying he's at fault for all of these goals obviously but each and everyone of them highlights his lack of defensive intelligence, ability to snuff out danger or even just his positional awareness.

You don't like him do you?
I've seen him be the first to react, closing down forwards as they're about to pull the trigger on the edge of the 18 yard line and sliding in last ditch a la Jagielka while a fox in the box tries to sneak in behind the back 4. Snuffing out danger like danger mouse crossed with Liam Neeson.
He does make mistakes, but pretty well everyone does and ours are magnified right now because we are under pressure and pretty well everyone is under-performing.