Drico
Player Valuation: £50m
And 20 games with Franz Beckenbauer is better than Mina, but he's not available to us either...
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Yeah, he stepped up big time on Sunday.
When Yerry went off, the game was on a knife edge, really. We needed a performance from Keane and he was solid as a rock.
TimHowardsBeardJuice
Player Valuation: £30m
Breaks my heart. He’s so good but I especially love his spirit, the way he winds up the attackers, all that.
Just can’t be relied upon.
Just can’t be relied upon.
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
I agree, but if you sign a new defender who is the best in your squad, you don't sell your second best defender. I would have no problem selling mina, but not before Keane or holgate.
In all seriousness, the universal appraisal of him as our best defender only seems to have taken hold this season, which is really strange considering he’s only actually played about 1/5th of our games. Absence definitely seems to have made the heart grow fonder. So apart from the fact I wouldn’t see anything wrong with doing what you’re saying anyway, I’m not even sure it’s clear he is our best defender.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
True, he also seems quite happy here as well.
What's blindingly obvious, however, is that the club needs to make plans for him not being in the first team because he so rarely is. As @BlueToff says, we need to prioritise 2 new CBs if we stay up.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
Who's better than him? Mykolenko maybe, but he's only come into form in the past few games. Our defensive unit is shocking.
grandjoeblue
Player Valuation: £35m
I don't think other clubs would be willing to pay his wages and a fee. He'll be here until his contract ends then he'll sign a contract for around 50k a week somewhere else.
You can't rely on a player like him, it's similar to Delph. Regardless of whether they are good for 10 or so games per season.
You can't rely on a player like him, it's similar to Delph. Regardless of whether they are good for 10 or so games per season.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
My take on it is that Coleman needs to have dropped off there and Mina is trying to head it back to Coleman (albeit unwisely). Coleman basically going right up Mina's back is the last thing he should be doing. Basics of centre back play - if your mate is going up for a header, you should be behind on the cover. Exactly what Coleman was thinking there I have no idea
Coleman should definitely drop/cover, but that makes no difference if Mina deals with it. Mina should deal with it/he doesn't. It comes off his back/he doesn't head it back.
I think you'd have a completely different take if that was Michael Keane and not Yerry Mina
I think Patterson replaces Coleman next season anyway.
We need to find a top/lead centre half. Mina, his injury record/wage/contract duration should dictate he's binned.
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
I thought he'd been our best defender since arriving at the club. Godfrey and Kean have had decent spells in that time, but both have also had longer, utterly horrendous spells where they look like championship quality players.
I'm not saying someone in particular is better than him, I'm saying this general acceptance of him being our best defender is very definitely a new thing. Keane and Godfrey were the ones everyone had up for POTY last year, Holgate was the one everyone rated the year before, even Zouma was often seen as better than Mina. Suddenly this year it's as if it's beyond any doubt that he's our best centre half, despite him hardly ever actually managing to complete a game. He's gone past Keane and Godfrey by virtue of them looking worse, not by him looking better.
In theory he's easily our best centre half. His attributes are better than the others, I think most people would agree with that, and when he's at his very very best he looks great. By the same token though, Gomes is theoretically our best midfielder by a country mile and his best is way way way better than any of the others can do, and yet neither of them actually produce that very very best level with any sort of regularity, even when they're not injured.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
Nobody in our team is producing at their "very very best level" except maybe Pickford. I don't think anyone imagines that Mina is in the same bracket as the very best CBs but on the few occasions he can actually complete a game of football our defence, all of it, looks much better.
It's all moot anyway, he's made of glass, we can't rely on him, so he needs replacing.
Old Blue 2
Player Valuation: £35m
Aren't we supposed to be sniffing round Tarkowski? He's bit of a brute, which is what we need.Coleman should definitely drop/cover, but that makes no difference if Mina deals with it. Mina should deal with it/he doesn't. It comes off his back/he doesn't head it back.
I think you'd have a completely different take if that was Michael Keane and not Yerry Mina
I think Patterson replaces Coleman next season anyway.
We need to find a top/lead centre half. Mina, his injury record/wage/contract duration should dictate he's binned.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Coleman should definitely drop/cover, but that makes no difference if Mina deals with it. Mina should deal with it/he doesn't. It comes off his back/he doesn't head it back.
I think you'd have a completely different take if that was Michael Keane and not Yerry Mina
I think Patterson replaces Coleman next season anyway.
We need to find a top/lead centre half. Mina, his injury record/wage/contract duration should dictate he's binned.
It's hard to tell - I can't quite decide if Mina is trying to head it back towards Coleman, or if Coleman charging into the back of him is why he's not able to deal with it.
In either case, it doesn't look great but I'm still having Coleman as the more culpable of the two.
You're right to an extent with Keane - mostly because he has form for criminal mistakes, so I'd be less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt
In either case, your main point is right. I rate the lad very highly, but it matters for absolutely nothing if he isn't playing and given, by all accounts, that he's one of our top earners, we should be looking to move him on and a commanding centre back brought in who can be relied upon to play more games and walk the rest of our clowns in defence through games
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