Why not make them public now, I’ll happily retract now if there is compelling evidence to change or irrefutably torpedo my analysis mate.
Why not make them public now, I’ll happily retract now if there is compelling evidence to change or irrefutably torpedo my analysis mate.
I'm not able to. Although things will emerge in the coming months (nothing to do with Dyche or the team)
Ok mate. Ill happily retract, if there is a smoking gun, I’m calling it as I see it on available evidence at the moment.
Like I said I don’t think it’s binary, you can not support the administration and criticise their competency and be Disappointed with the impact of the protest groups protests and impact on the club for the reasons myself and Dave outline above, the two things can exist together.
The protest groups are a response to dysfunction and the culture at the club. They haven't caused or impacted anything. The protesters didn't force the board or club communication staff to brief the press over Headlock Gate. They did that entirely themselves. With no help from the protesters.
Things will come out eventually. Not about the above. About Bill Kenwright and Denise Barrett-Baxendale being unfit to occupy their roles
Until then mate…..
You'll find out how wrong you are
I hope I do at some stage…..
I don’t think I’d be terribly surprised if more came out about the board or owner , (whatever it is corruption, losses, leaking false allegation) - to be honest or their competency that’s not my point, I’m not defending them.
Equally I don’t think that absolves the protest groups of their share of impact on this January, actions have impacted on the wellbeing of the club. As Dave said Laudable intentions poorly executed at the wrong time and about the wrong priority, that hasn’t helped or empowered the club, the opposite.
It’s been cival war and we are the footballing equivalent of the smelly kid in school because of it, the club has become weaker because of it, when we needed to get stronger.
Whatever comes out in the future is irrelevant in a way right now our adversity and priority is now, January is gone and now we’re worse than before it and those cival war dynamics impacted.
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Streetender1878
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When you say "you dont like the timing of what went down this month" do you mean the morning of the southampton game when the board released a statement to the media that they werent turning up to the match coz of threats made and an assault carried out on our chief executive or coz a few blues had made it public that they were bringing some flags with words on the board and especially chairman wouldnt like? Also about "damage done to the public reputation of the club and undermining" do you mean the lads with the flags or because there was no evidence of threats or headlocks as the police said and the whole thing looks like a smear campaign against Evertonians. Do you think it was just coincidence that these revelations came out on the morning of the match or do you think it could be kenwright trying to steal their thunder coz a boardroom who cant attend a match coz they are scared of the supporters kind of puts us all in a bad light really.
good times bad times
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Criticising the protests is playing right into the board's hands. They will love that and use it to divide the fanbase (again). The protesters aren't the reason that no players want to join us (granted the imbecilic chasing of players' cars after Southampton didn't help but that was more about the result), it is the signals that have been sent out by the board that the club is in a deep financial crisis meaning that relegation is all but imminent. It's a bit rich for fans groups to be blamed for protesting against this.
Given the number of different groups involved it was never going to organised to perfection, but they did a good job given the circumstances and the club's press release earlier in the day re Headlockgate. This is the culmination of many years of mismanagement, not the events of our last home game.
The blame lies 100% with the board and owner of Everton Football Club.
Given the number of different groups involved it was never going to organised to perfection, but they did a good job given the circumstances and the club's press release earlier in the day re Headlockgate. This is the culmination of many years of mismanagement, not the events of our last home game.
The blame lies 100% with the board and owner of Everton Football Club.
Streetender1878
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Well said.
Rita_Poon
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Wait, who's been assaulted via headlock now? Has Ian Wright apologised yet? I'm clearly behind on events, are their threats still, and advice from the binman? tea lady? paper boy? window washer from the hot wok? that preacher bellend that was moaning outside the ground for years about the rapture on matchdays I aint seen in years? for the board to steer clear still???
Deal with headlockgate and the surrounding lies or this war continues!
Deal with headlockgate and the surrounding lies or this war continues!
You’re absolutely missing the point, I’m not arsed about who was right or wrong, or whataboutary. The priority was the well-being of the club. What would have been a Iva ke and productive was to protest about what would improve the well being of the club, signing players, getting results. Tension built based on results was channelled away from that immediate priority. I don’t care who the owner or the board is, or who’s got a twitter following once Everton’s welfare is ok.
The Dynamic between both administration and protest grouo turned the atmosphere in and outside the club toxic - that is evident, we’re in the media as a basket case every two mins, the videos all over social media. That dynamic regardless what you belive undermined the club.
Youd have to be pretty oblivious to think, that players wanting to leave, players picking Southampton over us, bang average players just giving us a fat no wasn't down to the toxicity surrounded by the club created by the cival war dynamic, we had a shot to improve - it was January and your fooling yourself if you think the dynamic didn’t influence the torpedoing of it, of course it did. We got worse because of it, do you think we got better……
The only looser in the im right, you’re wrong, he said, she said, cival war was Everton. The outcome of January is there, what was improved, what was achieved. Nothing we got worse and be a miracle if we’re not relegated.
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Rita_Poon
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The support wants blood Neiler, and I don't blame em, 8 months ago this support shed blood and was the greatest on the planet, 7 months later its violent and attacking the woman on the board.
It's a big fat no from me, up the toxicity, the players had the chance to stay and play or leave for elsewhere summer and this January - times up, this race is run, and theres a lot pissed off that this scandal has been actively encouraged. Down with the board and all their phonies cronies and shysters.
Time's up.
