They got 1 point from them 3 games.
Points count not performances
Points count not performances
jimmythenut
Player Valuation: £8m
Say we're right in the mix or still in bottom three after Xmas, we just stick the finger to FFP and spend some of the Arteta money on a few Galacticos to save us.
Blue Roo
Player Valuation: £15m
Yep, esp if there's a couple of key injuries and no transfers in Jan.
Was already worried about how the squad would look after the Xmas period.
Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
Based on Davek's thinking, we have no fight or anything, so are doomed
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £35m
I'm surprised people are writing off any of the bottom clubs at this point in the season, there's a long long way to go and we've seen in the last couple of seasons in the relegation battle some teams really pick up and others from mid table get caught up in it. It's a long old season, we should not be writing off even Luton.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
As I say, I wish I could join in with the fun. But we;ve just been handed a death sentence and I don't really feel like laughing about it.
Maybe you and others are the one's acting oddly? Think about it: your club gets thrown to the bottom of the PL and you think its time for levity.
Sorry, not me. I recognise a disaster when I see one.
When/if Utd beat us at Goodison maybe the penny will drop that we've just been killed off by the PL.
That's fine, but I'll tell you now that Dyche will have consistently aimed at that 40 point mark like Moyes used to. That'll have been the aim this season, definite safety.
Will we need it? Almost certainly not, but that's not the point. You set a target and then when crunch time comes you reassess.
If Everton can get 10 wins then I think they'll be fine. That will mean winning 14 games over the course of the season, of course, which while not impossible has not been the case for Everton in three years.
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
You can't just disregard the last 5 games..
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Ilm not disregarding them, Ilm saying they are not representative of this team.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
They didn't say Everton should have sued him. They said even if we did sue him it is doubtful we could have recouped the £10m. So it was ridiculous to try and claim the £10m.
This from an athletic piece and shows how ludicrous our defence was.
A pre-trial hearing in October saw Everton accept they had exceeded the PSR threshold for the first time but that the breach was, in their mind, £7.9million. The Premier League countered that by arguing the losses were £124.5m and not the £120.8m it had first calculated.
Everton had four areas where they initially attempted to justify the figures submitted.
The first took things back to the new stadium, where Everton argued that £14.5million could be excluded, primarily “in respect of interest incurred on inter-company loans used to fund” the overhaul of the Bramley-Moore Dock site.
They also focused on the four per cent transfer levy paid by all English clubs, money collected to fund a footballers’ pension scheme — with any surplus going to the Professional Game Youth Fund.
Everton tried unsuccessfully to argue £7.6million should fall into youth development expenditure and could be excluded from their PSR calculation. The Premier League said that was both “unprecedented and wrong in principle”.
The third point came back to Player X, who Everton said they had decided not to pursue for what they believed would be a £10million employment claim.
Lastly, Everton tried to claim £43.9million should be excluded from calculations due to the impact of Covid-19 in the summer window of 2020. They said Player Y, another individual given anonymity, could not be sold for big money as they had planned.
The Premier League countered. It said Everton’s PSR breaches were down to overspending on players and that “misleading information” on stadium financing costs had been submitted. It also argued Everton had taken the decision not to sell Player Y.
And so back to Everton. Their fresh focus was then trained on just two aspects; the transfer levy and pre-planning stadium interest costs of £4.1million. Including those, they argued, would mean PSR losses of £112.9m.
The Premier League maintained its position on its interpretation of the transfer levy. “It points to the fact that historically neither Everton nor any other club has sought to make a deduction from the PSR calculation in this way,” detail the written reasons. And, importantly, the commission sided with the Premier League.
The pre-planning stadium interest figures were less straightforward.
Everton argued that “any interest attributable to expenditure on the stadium should be excluded from its PSR calculation”, taking us back to the Premier League’s agreement made in August 2021 mentioned above.
The Premier League instead stressed that pre-planning interest charges had not been incurred “in respect of the stadium” but from “interest-free loans made by Mr Moshiri”. Although Everton argued otherwise, saying all the money had effectively gone into one large pot, the Premier League added that commercial loans taken from Metro Bank PLC and Rights & Media Funding Ltd had been for working capital and not the stadium build.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £40m
If they'd found us guilty last season we'd have been relegated.
The rules have been made more specific to make judgements easier and finally bring the PL in line with the EFL who've been regulating properly for a few years now.
That gives me even greater hope anyway.
Ignore him. He just likes to go against the grain on everything Everton to try and be cool
And edgey, hes clueless.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I dont bet on Everton.
