MACCA75
Player Valuation: £70m
You were very critical of anyone advocating change. You ridiculed the idea. And yet very clearly, it is what we needed.
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You were very critical of anyone advocating change. You ridiculed the idea. And yet very clearly, it is what we needed.
The last bit is true, Everton fans as a whole normally give any manager a chance and will back him to the hilt, Benitez was pushing it a bit like.
The first bit about laying the foundations.....sheeesh that pushing it a whole lot more.
Thought it was sound he was willing to forgo some of his pay off if we were relegated.
He must be enjoying the wins more then we are.
He must be enjoying the wins more then we are.
Keeping the club with the most top flight seasons up is not a great achievement
It went pear shaped after Carlo
Benitez, shocking choice and a disaster as a result
Lampard, inexperienced and for now at least not very good
Dyche, what's the reason for his pitiful table finishes? It wasn't what he was telling us evidently
He's made around £20 million from getting the team to move side to side with 4 FBs, phunt it to a lone striker hoping for the best, and talking the club and players down in pressers for two years
He didn't even watch football much when he was unemployed ffs
All his Christmases came at once with this gig and since he's been gone we're allowed look up the table again
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £50m
Considering our new dockside home I think a maritime analogy is appropriate.
I will say Dyche did steady the ship, considering the points deductions, headlock gate and all that palaver. It wasn’t pretty but he kept us afloat.
It’s such a shame that after steadying said ship Dyche then proceeded to drill a multitude of holes in the hull and tried to sink it.
I will say Dyche did steady the ship, considering the points deductions, headlock gate and all that palaver. It wasn’t pretty but he kept us afloat.
It’s such a shame that after steadying said ship Dyche then proceeded to drill a multitude of holes in the hull and tried to sink it.
Carlo's Capos
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
It went pear shaped during Carlo. That second half of the season was awful.
Poor finish yea, but the point is in relation to 'keeping us up'
Missing out on Europe due to a poor run is not the same
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
He did us good service under atrocious circumstances which I will remember.
He was also sacked at the right moment. I am absolutely glad he was.
The two opinions can coexist without any conflict.
He was also sacked at the right moment. I am absolutely glad he was.
The two opinions can coexist without any conflict.
I think that's fair, did great over the first 18 months and because of that he deserved a crack at it - this season - he failed the audition really. So its right that everyone moves on.
The whole club feels different to me, forget new manager bounces, there is a new owner bounce, stadium feel good and PSR misery lifting. It very much feels to me the job Dyche had was at a different club to the stable club Moyes is at now - i dont think he takes the job otherwise.
We forget its only Sep since the whole place was still a skip fire and we didnt know whether we we were going to be under the likes of a Textor or a 777 type.
When you are on fire - you call a fire fighter. When your ready to rebuild you call a builder.
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The pig-man fans.
This is an interesting one - this season is essentially a vacuum season, always has been, is and will be.
I love Moyes and delighted he took over....but its still a vacuum season ultimately. Pros and Cons to the whole thing.
Lids are enjoying it more for sure.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Completely ignoring all my posts about not caring less if the manager was changed AFTER the ownership change. You think any decent manager, even one that likes Everton as much as Moyes, comes in BEFORE the takeover is completed into Moshiri’s transfer to pay the wages sclerotic regime knowing they could be fired on day one of the new ownership?!
Do people wilfully ignore context and the changing reality of situations or just genuinely cannot see it?
The other half of the coin is us getting RVN, Potter, Juric, Pereira (who all went to our competitors) BEFORE the takeover was completed. Would you want to live in that world? 7 losses in 8 and looking at another managerial change? That’s likely where we would have ended up if we’d changed before the ownership, taking a massive punt that could have easily gone wrong.
canuckblue
Player Valuation: £50m
Rafael's Monthly-Tenant-Bill-Young-Lads?
Needs context that bold, really. And not really pitiful table finishes.
He arrived with us in 19th. Make no apology for reminding folk it was with our lowest ever points total at that stage of the season in our entire history. Kept us up.
He had one full season. A season of point deductions and absolute chaos, earned enough points to finish 12th. 22 points clear - incredible progress on the 2 seasons before that, then when we'd relied on the final home game of the season.
If he'd left last summer, then what an effort that was...
Wheels come off this season, small margins went against him and war time was coming to an end under new owners. No one would have thought we'd finish last season so strongly, we were in a scrap going into April. Mid April, and I'm one of the optimistic shouts here;
The only manager in recent years who left the club with us in a better position than when he started.
The hatred and anger I find really odd.
This team will still be 12th-17th next season, we need to spend big money this summer to really kick on.
I think we have to move on from thinking anyone deserves anything at Everton.
Dyche himself said on being appointed he shouldn't be Everton's manager, and wouldn't under usual circumstances.
Those circumstances he subsequently worked under are why he deserves a lot of credit for what he did.
If Everton weren't a circus, Dyche should have been sacked after Bournemouth. And last season.
No team with aspirations looks to progress and genuinely compete with Sean Dyche.
But I'll always think the fella did a tremendous job keeping us up.
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