Sandhills station

[allen]

It'd have to be one of the biggest stations in the country to handle say 40k people.

ha ha ha.

Type that like I just did. "handle 40,000 people". For 19 home league matches per calendar year. Throw 3k filthy leeds fans into the mix, then what?

Someone mentioned yesterday european competition support being marched back to lime street by plod after matches at anfield, if aways or dare I suggest euro aways support are marching back into town, won't they be side by side with thousands of our fans?

RMS Titanic, capacity ~2500 passengers. We'd need 16 Titanics to ship just 40k supporters.

3 new stations wouldn't cover the requirement, and 3 new stations would need policing, and where would the queues go?

The irony, there's an iceberg sized catastrophe heading straight for Liverpool dockside.

When discussion turns to loading up 16 Titanics as an alternative to Sandhills, you know the queues are bad.

 

[davek]

Reading all the comments under that tweet is good to see that we aren't just an echo chamber on here.

The massive issue we now have is a Mayor who thinks it all went well, It hasn't and he's burying his head in the sand. He can only kick the can down the road for so long, there's a massive storm (much bigger than the current one) coming.

The club are saying the same but pretty much isolating their views on the test events to what happens inside the walls of the stadium site.

They form part of the Transport Working Group and really need to be using fan discontent to put a fire under the local state to get this sorted before a major unwanted incident happens. It's no good going on about smooth runnings inside the stadium complex when our fans are in danger getting to and away from it.

IMO Rotheram is incapable of fixing this. And that represents a massive obstacle to what happens in the next few weeks, months, years.

 

[Harryflashman]

Build a small boat terminal and get routes going from every dock in town/the wirral - no brainer

I might be wrong but unlike a lot of rivers I’m sure there is some requirement for a skippers certificate for the Mersey . I’m not saying it’s a huge issue but it’s not as simple as just anyone signing up .

 

[Sweeneytoad]

National media starting to report on the problem, they must be outside of the reach of Steve's iron fist.

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[davek]

National media starting to report on the problem, they must be outside of the reach of Steve's iron fist.

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...and so it begins...

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March 7, 2025

All you say is true there.
I'm now believing there is no cost effective or easy fix which pleases everyone.
The geographical position of BMD simply doesn't allow it.

It's crazy though really isn't it?

Here we are 2 miles away from one of the busiest city centres in the country, in the third decade of the 21st century, and a brand new stadium feels like it's marooned in the middle of nowhere.

Even Sandhills station is now being seen as a hindrance rather than an asset.

I hope the national and international media get onto this - which Im sure they will in the coming months - and...

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[NathDogg]

Reading all the comments under that tweet is good to see that we aren't just an echo chamber on here.

The massive issue we now have is a Mayor who thinks it all went well, It hasn't and he's burying his head in the sand. He can only kick the can down the road for so long, there's a massive storm (much bigger than the current one) coming.

The clown is deluded, it’s a disgrace any way you look at it - trains, roads and busses.

I’m sure external private stakeholders like Costco will be getting involved. Carnage there yesterday.

There was a private garage/petrol station on great Howard st that was basically closed to the public with the road closures and crappy access - he won’t be happy to be missing out on business.

Everything the club has touched or managed in relation to BMD is more or less perfect, it’s a beautiful, amazing, world class football stadium and enabler for regeneration in an area of the city that has been deprived for many years.

Sadly , the stadium, the club, all evertonians, the existing and future businesses in the area and the entire city and city region have been woefully let down by our council and its supreme leader in their management of the infrastructure requirements.

He needs to resign or be sacked.

 

[Amw79]

RMS Titanic, capacity ~2500 passengers. We'd need 16 Titanics to ship just 40k supporters.

This feels like an inefficient solution to the problem.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Only immediate solutions I can see are: lift the parking restrictions as far as possible and have the club try every incentive possible to keep fans hanging round at game's end (very difficult on a night match I know)

A major part of the issues yesterday was too many in cars still using the Strand and Leeds Street and trying to park off Grt Howard Street. This is the nearest main road and every approach to it was completely gridlocked. Shuttle buses from town became totally ineffective after 1pm. If we open this road up to more traffic and more parking close to the site, that will only get worse. There is nowhere near enough public transport capacity nearby and there is insufficient road space too. We've know all of this for years.

 

[Street end man]

A major part of the issues yesterday was too many in cars still using the Strand and Leeds Street and trying to park off Grt Howard Street. This is the nearest main road and every approach to it was completely gridlocked. Shuttle buses from town became totally ineffective after 1pm. If we open this road up to more traffic and more parking close to the site, that will only get worse. There is nowhere near enough public transport capacity nearby and there is insufficient road space too. We've know all of this for years.

I think only people who visit and use the area often realised what it would be like with a big stadium there.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Long felt/wondered whether this could cause hesistancy from Euro 2028 organisers.

If there's chaos around travel in the Premier League, it'll make the headlines and they'll want reassurance.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

Might be good to see Mr Burnham, marooned outside Lime street, queued for an hour to get on a soccer bus in the rain…. How embarrassing for Rotherham would that be…

 

[gazzaa2]

National media starting to report on the problem, they must be outside of the reach of Steve's iron fist.

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How will the press pack get to the ground anyway? Will they have parking access on the site? The dock road will be shut for traffic mostly.

They certainly won't be happy caught up in congestion.

 

[Sam0697]

I do wonder if the club are banking on a lot of people getting to games early to eat etc. and hanging around afterwards in bars in/around the ground to ease congestion at Sandhills. Either way it looks as though people who’re likely paid very handsomely to sort this haven’t done their jobs properly.

I have no doubt that thousands of people will do this, like at Goodison now. But that will still leave a good 40k+ every match who will be planning on watching the game and going home at the full time whistle.

 

[Street end man]

How will the press pack get to the ground anyway? Will they have parking access on the site?

Leccy scooter from Lime street.

 

[MerseySamurai]

Build a small boat terminal and get routes going from every dock in town/the wirral - no brainer

Problem with the boats is when it’s 30 mile an hour winds, the Mersey’s a mini tsunami and the small boats are re-creating the Titanic.