Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

[Connor]

"It worked for City"

Had to stop reading there, that was over a decade ago

 

[Toast]

Everton's owners have spent the 3rd most in football history. You will be doing well to have the investment we had. And we have not really gone anywhere with it. In fairness, we now have a top DOF and manager so probably just at the point we move forward, but it's taken 4 years to get there. It doesnt happen overnight anymore. Even for an investment level that is in the top 3 of English football history (which you will be doing well to emulate).

I'm not trying to be nasty, but what you expect is very unlikely to happen. Call it me being cruel to be kind. Maybe you emulate City and spends billions in the first couple of years. We will have any idea if you are by the end of the summer I suppose.

Have we really spent the 3rd most in football history ?

And we're still crap..

Sake.

 

[d34noj]

Because it was Ashley's intention from the start to buy the club then 'flip it' and sell it on quickly for a fast buck.
He did have discussions with the Management Team of Sheikh Mansour on more than one occassion but from all
reports behaved exactly like Ashley behaves and ADG simply walked away. Newcastle Football Club was seriously
on the radar of ADG as it met all of the required criteria. I would hazard a guess that if Ashley had behaved like a
professional, serious businessman in those meetings Newcastle would be where City are now.
You reap what you sow and all that...

You mean Mike Ashley the self-made multi-billionaire?

 

[catcherintherye]

Have we really spent the 3rd most in football history ?

And we're still crap..

Sake.

In absolute terms yes. In relative terms no.

The point is more about Newcasle though. They go on in this derisory way about Everton. The owner have backed the team enormously, while at present theirs wont fund a purchase of the club on his own, yet they think hes going to blow out of the water every financial commitment ever seen in football. Call me a cynic, but I am a bit doubtful it will play out exactly like that.

 

[Spotty]

If PIF were gonna do a Man City - why give 20% of the club to a skint bimbo and two blokes who they have no links with?

I thought the Sheikh himself was buying you which was my worry as Man City/Chelsea and to a lesser extent ourselves are owned by rich people who want a play thing.

PIF stands for Public INVESTMENT Fund - the key word being Investment.

Its not the Public PLAYTHING Fund.

More than likely at best you'll be another Wolves but without the added benefit of having a super agent in your pocket to bring players like Jimenez, Neves, Moutinho, Patricio and their manager to the club on the cheap.

FFP stops a Man City from happening all over again - now its all about having the best manager and recruitment not the richest owners.

As much as I hate to admit it Liverpool are where they are because of fantastic recruitment and a world class manager - our owners are worth many more billions than theirs but means nothing when we have done nothing but throw big money around at tat as we havent CL football to attract the better players.

Still not great news for us regardless as any club with more money than before may be competition but I would rather Ancelotti as manager than Bruce when it comes to attracting/recruiting players.

Re: Ancellotti, so would I he's a class act. Don't think Bruce will be at Newcastle long IF the takeover happens. Pochattino has been sounded out. Been mentioned by " reliable sources " that any new manager will have a £250m budget for approx 2 transfer windows and be able to update / modernise stadium and training facilities.£250 m sounds crazy but gets you what three to four real quality players. Wages won't be a problem. The Reuben brothers who by all accounts are very fond of the Club are worth 18 billion and want also to invest. Buying the right players is a Ivery valid point though. Be good to shake up the established four or five Clubs. 8 teams now competing for 4 champions League places. Think - four out of City / United / Arsenal / Liverpool / Chelsea / Newcastle / Spurs and You will miss out on Champions League. Bit crowded but as I said, be exciting.

 

[dow1978]

It worked for City. Invested in heavily, similar Club to Newcastle, and they are probably on par with Liverpool and United as the biggest Clubs in the Country. Not saying they will, however, with investors who are worth £320 billion, should they spend big on qualify, it would not be a stretch of the imagination to see Newcastle winning things and as. consequence, be classed as " Big ". It's only money that makes you a big Club. City are testament to that. We all know Newcastle's woefull record over the last 5O years however, look at Everton's over the last 3O years. Nothing. City, got investment and won most trophies and you would have to be delusional not to think they aren't a far bigger Club than Everton. Because of money !. It does make me laugh, Geordies are called deluded and that they are never going to be a big Club but as of now, Everton are in the exact same position, exact. Decades without a trophy, and little on the horizon to suggest it's going to change. That's the REALITY.

City aren't a bigger club than us at all. Richer yes. Chelsea aren't bigger than us ffs.

Money has ripped this sport we love apart. Give it 20 years. Max. Neither of them will matter. They will be Leeds/Forest etc.

 

[dow1978]

Your fanbase punches horses.

Thats what they are most famous for this century. A fat idiot punching a horse.

 

[Westend Blue]

Is that the Ground that came top in a poll of away fans best ground to visit. Fantastic City to visit and Ground uniquely for the Premiership, slap bang in the middle.ov the Town. Been there many times for a weekend and it's an outstanding City.

SJP is bang average your mob are fantastic support and that's what makes it a good place to go as much as I can't stand your lot the fans are generally good. And Newcastle is an alright city but it's got zilch on London or Manchester as a rich footballer and as derilic as Liverpool is we are also close to Chester where loads of footballers reside.

The potential is there but loads needs to go right to even think about jumping the que and the rungs of European football. To be honest we have massively cocked up and you will still have a mission just to keep frog us let alone the established top clubs

 

[Spotty]

"It worked for City"

Had to stop reading there, that was over a decade ago

It DID work for City. Literally overnight.

"It worked for City"

Had to stop reading there, that was over a decade ago

It DID work for City, literally overnight. What has a decade got to do with it. Nothing ! There's only one Club can challenge City at present, Liverpool. Some hack has said that people saying the PIF will not invest in Newcastle is crazy. Money is not an object really, they have a painting on one of their yachts worth £400 million. !!!. The word investment is the operative word. They won't just buy and leave it at that. Where they can throw money at Newcastle, they WILL and they have serious ambitions got Newcastle. What's crazy about it is being a billionaire doesn't seem to cut it now, you have to be a multi billionaire ! Do Newcastle fans card about the human rights, probably yes but will look the other way. Thirteen years of Ashley spending an average of 7.5 m a season on players, who can blame them. All this utter garbage about " I would hate the Saudis as owners " is laughable and pathetic. Henry Winter is spot on, Clubs will be worried about Newcastle's spending power but it is undoubtedly going to make the Premiership more exciting.

 

[Spotty]

SJP is bang average your mob are fantastic support and that's what makes it a good place to go as much as I can't stand your lot the fans are generally good. And Newcastle is an alright city but it's got zilch on London or Manchester as a rich footballer and as derilic as Liverpool is we are also close to Chester where loads of footballers reside.

The potential is there but loads needs to go right to even think about jumping the que and the rungs of European football. To be honest we have massively cocked up and you will still have a mission just to keep frog us let alone the established top clubs

Do you REALLY think Everton are so far in front of Newcastle at present " mission to leap frog us " that with decent investment Newcastle would struggle. You accuse Newcastle of being deluded. I really don't know where you think Everton are ? Your fan base is loyal, so is Newcastle's, you have a new stadium - is it four years time ? - Newcastle's is ideally situated slap bang in the City Centre, you're owners have invested, so will Newcastle's and you have a great Manager, Newcastle don't but soon will. Now, are you still saying given the above that factually, you are leaps and bounds ahead of Newcastle. Objectively, you just aren't. However neither Club are ANYWHERE near City and Liverpool's standard.

 

[Spotty]

City aren't a bigger club than us at all. Richer yes. Chelsea aren't bigger than us ffs.

Money has ripped this sport we love apart. Give it 20 years. Max. Neither of them will matter. They will be Leeds/Forest etc.

You aren't grasping it. YES money is the be all and end all but it is what it is. To say Everton are bigger than City is subjective, but objectively madness. You are just NOT. They are richer and are light years ahead of you. It's embarrassing you would even say that.

 

[Spotty]

Thats what they are most famous for this century. A fat idiot punching a horse.

How old are you, does your mum know you're up.

 

[Spotty]

Jesus.

They are worth 250bn. That will be greatly reduced with the oil crisis (the one you expect to return back to normal soon lol).

When City were bought out, it happened in a day, they didn't haggle over years around 40m, they didnt give liquidity away for others, or borrow money from Ashley to raise the funds.

Everton's owners have spent the 3rd most in football history. You will be doing well to have the investment we had. And we have not really gone anywhere with it. In fairness, we now have a top DOF and manager so probably just at the point we move forward, but it's taken 4 years to get there. It doesnt happen overnight anymore. Even for an investment level that is in the top 3 of English football history (which you will be doing well to emulate).

I'm not trying to be nasty, but what you expect is very unlikely to happen. Call it me being cruel to be kind. Maybe you emulate City and spends billions in the first couple of years. We will have any idea if you are by the end of the summer I suppose.

' what you expect to happen ". I've never said anything other than I expect Newcastle with investment yo be able to compete. That's it. Investment on quality players and Manager equates to being a lot more competitive. No grandiosity at all, just being able to compete. Now what's wrong with that. Will they have the money to buy quality, real quality, YES. Four or five top class players will see Newcastle compete. As k said make things more interesting but unfortunately for you, make it whole lot harder to progress as one of your more honest posters said. No shame in it, it's just that IF Newcastle get taken over the field is a log more congested.

 

[RAFUH]

How old are you, does your mum know you're up.

GOT welcomes fans of other clubs, but not if they immediately become crotchety

 

[Spotty]

GOT welcomes fans of other clubs, but not if they immediately become crotchety

Pointed out that the ," horse punching idiots " jibe was pathetic and cretinous, something a kid would say, hence my remark.