Newcastle Utd (and Viz)

[GwladysPhil]

Pointed out that the ," horse punching idiots " jibe was pathetic and cretinous, something a kid would say, hence my remark.

You are known for that though.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It worked for City. Invested in heavily, similar Club to Newcastle, and they are probably on par with Liverpool and United as the biggest Clubs in the Country. Not saying they will, however, with investors who are worth £320 billion, should they spend big on qualify, it would not be a stretch of the imagination to see Newcastle winning things and as. consequence, be classed as " Big ". It's only money that makes you a big Club. City are testament to that. We all know Newcastle's woefull record over the last 5O years however, look at Everton's over the last 3O years. Nothing. City, got investment and won most trophies and you would have to be delusional not to think they aren't a far bigger Club than Everton. Because of money !. It does make me laugh, Geordies are called deluded and that they are never going to be a big Club but as of now, Everton are in the exact same position, exact. Decades without a trophy, and little on the horizon to suggest it's going to change. That's the REALITY.

The Saudis haven’t lead this purchase, they’ve been persuaded to invest, there’s a distinct difference. Had they been driving this, the takeover would have happened in a matter of weeks, over a year ago, and it’d have been 100% not 80%. Only it’s Staveley who’s lead this, and she’s heading up the consortium, she’s convinced the Saudi Fund to join her based on the numbers. This takeover is nothing like what we’ve seen with City and previously Chelsea.

If you doubt that, then ask yourself why they’d choose to invest £100’s of millions to increase the equity value of the other stakeholders for literally nothing?

If this goes through, and I think it will, then I’ll wager that the actual cash put onto the balance sheet by the Saudi Fund will be relatively modest in the medium term, and not the huge cash injection that Geordies appear to think it’ll be.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

If PIF were gonna do a Man City - why give 20% of the club to a skint bimbo and two blokes who they have no links with?

I thought the Sheikh himself was buying you which was my worry as Man City/Chelsea and to a lesser extent ourselves are owned by rich people who want a play thing.

PIF stands for Public INVESTMENT Fund - the key word being Investment.

Its not the Public PLAYTHING Fund.

More than likely at best you'll be another Wolves but without the added benefit of having a super agent in your pocket to bring players like Jimenez, Neves, Moutinho, Patricio and their manager to the club on the cheap.

FFP stops a Man City from happening all over again - now its all about having the best manager and recruitment not the richest owners.

As much as I hate to admit it Liverpool are where they are because of fantastic recruitment and a world class manager - our owners are worth many more billions than theirs but means nothing when we have done nothing but throw big money around at tat as we havent CL football to attract the better players.

Still not great news for us regardless as any club with more money than before may be competition but I would rather Ancelotti as manager than Bruce when it comes to attracting/recruiting players.

To be fair, I'm not.sure the scrutiny of the Saudi public investment fund is up to much...

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

It worked for City. Invested in heavily, similar Club to Newcastle, and they are probably on par with Liverpool and United as the biggest Clubs in the Country. Not saying they will, however, with investors who are worth £320 billion, should they spend big on qualify, it would not be a stretch of the imagination to see Newcastle winning things and as. consequence, be classed as " Big ". It's only money that makes you a big Club. City are testament to that. We all know Newcastle's woefull record over the last 5O years however, look at Everton's over the last 3O years. Nothing. City, got investment and won most trophies and you would have to be delusional not to think they aren't a far bigger Club than Everton. Because of money !. It does make me laugh, Geordies are called deluded and that they are never going to be a big Club but as of now, Everton are in the exact same position, exact. Decades without a trophy, and little on the horizon to suggest it's going to change. That's the REALITY.

We have probably one of the best managers in the world, 2 of the best young forwards in the country and are bankrolled by one of the worlds richest men.

You have Steve Bruce and fans who punch horses.

 

[malfosse]

No, I expected it. Doesn't change the fact it's petty and tribal though.

You're a Newcastle fan posting on an Everton forum defending Newcastle. What reaction did you expect?

 

[malfosse]

What’s this about the Saudi people having concerns about their country aligning themselves with a club as dispicable as Newcastle?

They love their horses in Saudi Arabia so this won't go down well.

 

[catcherintherye]

' what you expect to happen ". I've never said anything other than I expect Newcastle with investment yo be able to compete. That's it. Investment on quality players and Manager equates to being a lot more competitive. No grandiosity at all, just being able to compete. Now what's wrong with that. Will they have the money to buy quality, real quality, YES. Four or five top class players will see Newcastle compete. As k said make things more interesting but unfortunately for you, make it whole lot harder to progress as one of your more honest posters said. No shame in it, it's just that IF Newcastle get taken over the field is a log more congested.

Well you have also said you were going to jump ahead of Everton, sign lots of quality players and made an insinuation that I am being dishonest. I have no issue with you wanting to compete, that's a perfectly understandable instinct. My point is, that there's very little evidence thus far that you are going to spend as much money as Everton did following the takeover. You might, but there are also a lot of realities where you don't. Everton were also a lot further ahead of you in 2016. We had a squad with assets (Lukaku, Deulofeu, Barkley, Stones etc). Your squad is really poor and is overachieving to keep itself above the relegation zone. You've got a long long way to go to be able to overtake Everton. Lets see for a starting point if you even change your manager.

 

[GwladysBlue]

It worked for City. Invested in heavily, similar Club to Newcastle, and they are probably on par with Liverpool and United as the biggest Clubs in the Country. Not saying they will, however, with investors who are worth £320 billion, should they spend big on qualify, it would not be a stretch of the imagination to see Newcastle winning things and as. consequence, be classed as " Big ". It's only money that makes you a big Club. City are testament to that. We all know Newcastle's woefull record over the last 5O years however, look at Everton's over the last 3O years. Nothing. City, got investment and won most trophies and you would have to be delusional not to think they aren't a far bigger Club than Everton. Because of money !. It does make me laugh, Geordies are called deluded and that they are never going to be a big Club but as of now, Everton are in the exact same position, exact. Decades without a trophy, and little on the horizon to suggest it's going to change. That's the REALITY.

What’s on Everton’s horizon:

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What’s on Newcastle’s horizon:

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[catcherintherye]

Re: Ancellotti, so would I he's a class act. Don't think Bruce will be at Newcastle long IF the takeover happens. Pochattino has been sounded out. Been mentioned by " reliable sources " that any new manager will have a £250m budget for approx 2 transfer windows and be able to update / modernise stadium and training facilities.£250 m sounds crazy but gets you what three to four real quality players. Wages won't be a problem. The Reuben brothers who by all accounts are very fond of the Club are worth 18 billion and want also to invest. Buying the right players is a Ivery valid point though. Be good to shake up the established four or five Clubs. 8 teams now competing for 4 champions League places. Think - four out of City / United / Arsenal / Liverpool / Chelsea / Newcastle / Spurs and You will miss out on Champions League. Bit crowded but as I said, be exciting.

Pochettino is a good manager, but far from world class. Hasn't actually won anything has he. £250m spend is siimlar to what we spent first couple of years, but its not groundbreaking.

The Reuben Brothers will not be putting money into Newcastle. That you think that suggests to me you are quite misinformed about the likelihood of what is happening.

 

[Yarrgh]

For Newcastle United's sake, I would advise not going gung ho like sailors on shore leave in the transfer market if any takeover occurs. Look what we wasted the cash on. Better a sensible policy of proven mid table youngish players and older top side players who are moving to the fringes of those teams.

The important stuff of improving or moving stadiums and the training ground and getting the upper management and a good coach who knows what they're up to has taken us years. That'll take Newcastle years too. City had a big head start with their new stadium ready and waiting.

Will Newcastle flourish? With a well healed and generous owner, almost certainly. It may well take the best part of 10 years. If the buyers have been preparing dilligently in the background then maybe around 5 years or so.

I would not be surprised if the Saudis keep low profile unless something starts happening which will accelerate or harm their investment. Probably just enough time to sportwash their reputation in football at least. Then who knows?

 

[dow1978]

How old are you, does your mum know you're up.

Sorry please enlighten me. What else have made your lot newspaper worthy? Oh hang on Kinnear calling a reporter a [Poor language removed] was pretty funny. And Di Canio doing the knee slide against you.

 

[dow1978]

Pochettino is a good manager, but far from world class. Hasn't actually won anything has he. £250m spend is siimlar to what we spent first couple of years, but its not groundbreaking.

The Reuben Brothers will not be putting money into Newcastle. That you think that suggests to me you are quite misinformed about the likelihood of what is happening.

I don't subscribe to the Pochettino hype at all. He bottled the champions league final. Spurs should have won that.

 

[Westend Blue]

Do you REALLY think Everton are so far in front of Newcastle at present " mission to leap frog us " that with decent investment Newcastle would struggle. You accuse Newcastle of being deluded. I really don't know where you think Everton are ? Your fan base is loyal, so is Newcastle's, you have a new stadium - is it four years time ? - Newcastle's is ideally situated slap bang in the City Centre, you're owners have invested, so will Newcastle's and you have a great Manager, Newcastle don't but soon will. Now, are you still saying given the above that factually, you are leaps and bounds ahead of Newcastle. Objectively, you just aren't. However neither Club are ANYWHERE near City and Liverpool's standard.

We have state of the art training facilities, with a world class manager and an owner willing to invest. With players potentially a much higher caliber currently. It couple change in a couple of seasons but yes currently we are a level or two above your lot is shambles and it will take some fixing

 

[Spotty]

The Saudis haven’t lead this purchase, they’ve been persuaded to invest, there’s a distinct difference. Had they been driving this, the takeover would have happened in a matter of weeks, over a year ago, and it’d have been 100% not 80%. Only it’s Staveley who’s lead this, and she’s heading up the consortium, she’s convinced the Saudi Fund to join her based on the numbers. This takeover is nothing like what we’ve seen with City and previously Chelsea.

If you doubt that, then ask yourself why they’d choose to invest £100’s of millions to increase the equity value of the other stakeholders for literally nothing?

If this goes through, and I think it will, then I’ll wager that the actual cash put onto the balance sheet by the Saudi Fund will be relatively modest in the medium term, and not the huge cash injection that Geordies appear to think it’ll be.

The other investors - Reuben brothers are the " acceptable " face of this takeover. Staveley s wealth from this will be staggering. 10% of the Club will apparently see her make over 900million. As for the Saudis inputting a modest amount is wrong I've heard. They are going to really back the takeover and provide " considerable ," funds. Money has no meaning to these people really.

 

[mahermi1]

What’s on Everton’s horizon:

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What’s on Newcastle’s horizon:

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Okay you win...