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Leighton Baines & Marouane Fellaini Thread

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People aren't really saying we should replace Baines with some centre half from Feyenoord, who can also play left back, are they ?

Prefer to keep Baines myself.
 

mawders said:
I don't mind Felli leaving if it means Bobby can bring in 2 or 3 of his own players that will help him play the system he wants. Felli was great but too often he slows the play up. Under Moyes it worked, but not under Bobby. I think he sees it as a good sacrifice and he probably sees that Osman needs replacing and that an alternative to Pienaar would be a good thing too. I'm not against McCarthy...I haven't seen too much of him to form an opinion
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McCarthy isn't any faster than fellaini. They're not too different players, tbh. Just Fellaini is a bit more attacking and mccarfthy a bit more disciplined.

It wouldn't be a sea change.
 
Artetafan said:
Sure, but again the key word there is can.

Players can be good players in a league below their standard or they can not be good enough to do elsewhere.

It still relies entirely on personal judgement as to whether that player can make the step up.

You might as well say I believe people with two arms can play football at the top level because ronaldo has two arms and does. It's true, but given the ammount of player who have two arms or who play in a crap league and don't make it is vastly more it's not really useful in terms of picking the, say 1%, with the talent needed.
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That's not the same though

Playing well in the Championship and playing well in the Premier League isn't a huge jump. Now, playing well in Blue Square North and moving to the Premiership is a much bigger jump I agree, but it's well within reason that someone who does well at a team in the top half of the Championship can do well at a Premiership Club

Now, where you judge Scotland on that scale is up to your own personal bias. I personally would have it as between League One and The Championship but I can see how other opinions would differ

I watch it on a week to week basis and it ultimately depends on who is playing and the form of the players on any given week

Dundee United Vs Celtic was about the same as watching Wolves against Watford, IMO

Now, if a player was doing great at Watford and we were linked with him, I'd have cause to be optimistic
 
It was like watching a decent team from League One play a top team from the Championship, which is what I was going for there with that one

And, if there was a player who was tearing it up at the top of League One and he was linked with Everton, I'd again be interested. Not if he was 30 like, but if he was late teens/early 20's, I'd probably be happy if we signed him, so long as it didn't break the bank

Stones came from the lower leagues and he's looked promising
 
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I still say that the majority of players in the championship and league one aren't good enough for the premier league and the promoted teams prove me right on that most years.

Some are, but most aren't which is why people tend not to pay too much for players who aren't proven at the top level.

Which is why Rhodes probably won't happen because he'd take big money and is a huge risk. Wanyana and Hooepr at least proved themselves in the CL, Griffiths and the like are a similar risk because they've never played anyone good.

Risk isn't the same as disaster. There will be good players in thoise leagues, nut not many of them and not alway eays to spot out of the players good enough for that league but nto for better.

Benteke for instance wasn't rated in belgium but flourished in a higher league while Kezman was meant to be brilliant and wasn't.

A couple of million for a prospect is one thing but if we're paying big money I'd want it to be someone who's already played at a decent level even if that's just CL or International.
 
TippEverton said:
People aren't really saying we should replace Baines with some centre half from Feyenoord, who can also play left back, are they ?

Prefer to keep Baines myself.
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I can see him making sense as Distin's replacement in the medium term, and allowing us to sell Heitinga (we wish), and loan out either Stones or Duffy (or both) this season. But as a replacement for Baines? Not wise.
 

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