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Leighton Baines & Marouane Fellaini Thread

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You can never know mate. Not 100%.

But I think of Gary Naysmith. Or McFadz. And look at the Scottish national team. Hardly inspiring stuff is it?

I've seen GMS (glad we can call him that) and I've seen Griffiths. And they are average at best. Would get found out in the prem.

Look at Spurs' signings. They all look awesome, but looked decidedly average against an experience Arsenal yesterday.

Jock, GET IM!!!!
 
Good I hope you'll be patient then if we sign random players you don't like. We can only give them time and see.

You are getting awfully excited about this Bruno player and supposed Anichebe bid considering there's nothing concrete about them. Do you love the drama mate? Quickly formed controversial opinions?


21 year old dutch left back with 10 caps at his age and people on here making VERY positive comments about him.

Anichebe -- Lost faith in him years ago.
 

What does that mean though?

It means that a player can come from the Championship or Scotland or Ireland etc and still be a force in the Premier League because, at the end of the day, they are a good player who just happened to be playing in a league that wasn't that good. The fact they move to a better league doesn't mean that they can't perform at a high standard

Again, Seamus Coleman is the perfect example of this
 
Still looking forward for an engineered sale of Fellaini. It now seems that only Moyes value him so much, so why not let him realise his value.

(Given that the German window is now shut, I would look forward for a Kagawa loan, but I guess I'm asking for too much.)
 
21 year old dutch left back with 10 caps at his age and people on here making VERY positive comments about him.

Anichebe -- Lost faith in him years ago.

A player you hadn't heard of today you're ok coming in to replace the best player on our team? From another league with no experience of English football?

Lost faith in Anichebe but obviously didn't watch him score more goals than our other strikers last year and would be happy to sell him despite us being short up top and struggling to score goals?

Reasonable opinion. No, instead LETZ PLAY FOOTBALL MANAGER its the fun!

Come on, think on lad.
 
A player you hadn't heard of today you're ok coming in to replace the best player on our team? From another league with no experience of English football?

Lost faith in Anichebe but obviously didn't watch him score more goals than our other strikers last year and would be happy to sell him despite us being short up top and struggling to score goals?

Reasonable opinion. No, instead LETZ PLAY FOOTBALL MANAGER its the fun!

Come on, think on lad.

He might be good mate, you never know
 

It means that a player can come from the Championship or Scotland or Ireland etc and still be a force in the Premier League because, at the end of the day, they are a good player who just happened to be playing in a league that wasn't that good. The fact they move to a better league doesn't mean that they can't perform at a high standard

Again, Seamus Coleman is the perfect example of this

Sure, but again the key word there is can.

Players can be good players in a league below their standard or they can not be good enough to do elsewhere.

It still relies entirely on personal judgement as to whether that player can make the step up.

You might as well say I believe people with two arms can play football at the top level because ronaldo has two arms and does. It's true, but given the ammount of player who have two arms or who play in a crap league and don't make it is vastly more it's not really useful in terms of picking the, say 1%, with the talent needed.
 
A player you hadn't heard of today you're ok coming in to replace the best player on our team? From another league with no experience of English football?

Lost faith in Anichebe but obviously didn't watch him score more goals than our other strikers last year and would be happy to sell him despite us being short up top and struggling to score goals?

Reasonable opinion. No, instead LETZ PLAY FOOTBALL MANAGER its the fun!

Come on, think on lad.

This! Selling Baines would be catastrophic, you cannot replace him with our budget, that's why the premier league champions want him. If there was someone better, they would buy him.

Anichebe is worth selling if we can get a Defoe, Ba or equivalent. If the only other option is Rhodes or another unproven premier league player then we should keep him as he has proven that he can be a handful and scores goals and is at least on par/better than our other front 2 at present.
 
SSN saying Man Utd sources saying they are 'aware of Everton's valuation', believed to be 'upwards of £24m', and it's up to them to 'stump up the money'. And that Baines is 'almost certainly staying at Everton'.
 
SSN saying Man Utd sources saying they are 'aware of Everton's valuation', believed to be 'upwards of £24m', and it's up to them to 'stump up the money'. And that Baines is 'almost certainly staying at Everton'.

I will be made up if this happens. The most important part of our window, (perhaps a striker too !)
 
I don't mind Felli leaving if it means Bobby can bring in 2 or 3 of his own players that will help him play the system he wants. Felli was great but too often he slows the play up. Under Moyes it worked, but not under Bobby. I think he sees it as a good sacrifice and he probably sees that Osman needs replacing and that an alternative to Pienaar would be a good thing too. I'm not against McCarthy...I haven't seen too much of him to form an opinion
 

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