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£40m Bid Made For Sigurdsson

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Thomasc said:
This "carpet bagger" term is exactly the same insult he has hurled at Kenwright and co over the years.

Yes that's right, he is directly comparing Moshiri to Kenwright, despite the 80m interest free loan, the down payment of 30m for BMD, despite a positive NET spend (chortle) since he has been here and all of the other things that have happened at the club since his arrival.

I find this insulting and am offended at the outrageous slurs thrown at majority shareholder and owner of Everton who is 100% moving the club in the right direction.

if a Kopite came on here making claims like this they would be banned immediately.

@Groucho @Andy C @GrandOldTeam

I am sorry, but how is this constructive on an Everton forum?
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A kopite would be banned for being a WUM.

Dave, isn't a kopite. Whether he's a WUM is another matter...

GrandOldTeam said:
Can't believe you all haven't worked out that davek is actually a bot.

Took us years to code him to take a deliberately contradictory view to drive engagement across the forum.

To be fair, if I wasn't a moderator, I'd suspect that too.

My own opinion remains as;

The reality is - as much as we'd love to, we can't ban people because we don't like them. @davek is antagonistic by nature, he, whether instinctively or to serve as a WUM - takes a contradictory view. If he was American, he'd switch between the republican and democratic party depending on who was in office.

Perhaps after all the years he has just ground me down, and it's "davek..." but other than monopolising threads (he needs to use that multi quote and space out replies) - he should be allowed to post as he likes. No matter how much he winds us all (including moderators, believe me) up - he's an Evertonian.
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mkrudden said:
Is the NET spend currently showing Mosh hasn't spent anything? Not a loaded question at all, just unsure of the current situation.
If so, understandable that you think this.
If he chucks circa£50m at Sigurds' and further coin on a striker, think we'd have to say he's held up his part of the deal
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Well Barkley and Niasse will defo leave. I can see another £35M-£40M from those two. McCarthy I believe will also leave. That'll probably see spending break even if a striker is brought in as expected.

The real figure should be what we do over and above a £20+M net spend...which is what we'v e done for the past three summers including those before Moshiri arrived here. My stated view from the off is that only if we're seeing a net spend this summer of somewhere approaching £50M can we say anything has changed.

I think we'll be way way off that.
 

davek said:
Well Barkley and Niasse will defo leave. I can see another £35M-£40M from those two. McCarthy I believe will also leave. That'll probably see spending break even if a striker is brought in as expected.

The real figure should be what we do over and above a £20+M net spend...which is what we'v e done for the past three summers including those before Moshiri arrived here. My stated view from the off is that only if we're seeing a net spend this summer of somewhere approaching a £50M net spend can we say anything has changed.

I think we'll be way way off that.
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That's a pretty fair point.
 
zebedee said:
To be fair mate the bids we're sent back by Swansea before the silly season started. He's Swansea's star player they are going to want a small fortune for him. The problem we have is, in a way a good one when do we walk away. They'll have back targets I'm sure.
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That's true fella. My point is more that I can't imagine Koeman and Walsh expected it to cost this much to acquire the player. But when you pair up the new tv money with the fees going around, it's not surprising. Perhaps we do have alternatives lined up, but I'm not so sure about it.
 
Thomasc said:
This "carpet bagger" term is exactly the same insult he has hurled at Kenwright and co over the years.

Yes that's right, he is directly comparing Moshiri to Kenwright, despite the 80m interest free loan, the down payment of 30m for BMD, despite a positive NET spend (chortle) since he has been here and all of the other things that have happened at the club since his arrival.

I find this insulting and am offended at the outrageous slurs thrown at majority shareholder and owner of Everton who is 100% moving the club in the right direction.

if a Kopite came on here making claims like this they would be banned immediately.

@Groucho @Andy C @GrandOldTeam

I am sorry, but how is this constructive on an Everton forum?
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I have the person in question on ignore and know exactly who you are on about
 

davek said:
Well Barkley and Niasse will defo leave. I can see another £35M-£40M from those two. McCarthy I believe will also leave. That'll probably see spending break even if a striker is brought in as expected.

The real figure should be what we do over and above a £20+M net spend...which is what we'v e done for the past three summers including those before Moshiri arrived here. My stated view from the off is that only if we're seeing a net spend this summer of somewhere approaching £50M can we say anything has changed.

I think we'll be way way off that.
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I've got no truck with player sales funding purchases as long as the team improves. We won't know that for some time, all else is just opinion and guess work.
 
Jeff Jones said:
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He just can't win, can he?
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Oversee £50M net spend this summer he's earned himself some respect.

Entirely up to him really. But if we just turnaround player sales plus maybe a little on top how is he achieving anything out of the ordinary in terms of squad development?
 
DualityNSNO said:
Context on any of those signings will tell you they didn't flop because of anything to do with being 'proven'.
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I don't know what you're trying to get at?

I mean, obviously they didn't flop because they were proven, that wouldn't make any sense would it? Same as the others quoted didn't flop because they were unproven. Sometimes it just doesn't work out for players for whatever reason, but the point still stands that just because someone's done well in the PL at one club it doesn't necessarily mean they'll do just as well at another.

Now, if only there was an example I could think of who had two excellent spells at one PL club, but moved away in between and struggled...
 
magicjuan said:
I've got no truck with player sales funding purchases as long as the team improves. We won't know that for some time, all else is just opinion and guess work.
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Unless you just go ballistic and just spend, spend, spend whilst at the same time, not get much back for your outgoings or send them on loan like Man City do, would it not be right in thinking that you are actually running the club pretty poorly if you didn't operate this way?
 
magicjuan said:
I've got no truck with player sales funding purchases as long as the team improves. We won't know that for some time, all else is just opinion and guess work.
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I have a big problem with it: data tells you that only those who retain their best players and buy better to add to them get anything out of this league, Leicester notwithstanding.

We've heard this bollocks for years about wise spending and building the squad that way. It's just another line spun by owners who cant take us to the next level.
 

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