1995-2020 = the longest barren spell without silverware in Everton's history

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Its a shambles and I've been slated for arguing this all season.

The fact is its not rocket science - RS have risen because they hired one of the best managers in the game.

Utd have dropped because they have hired unqualified managers like Moyes, Ole, Van Gaal - only Mourinho got some form of proper success there.

I got slated for saying it but for me if we were serious about winning something/challenging top 6 I would have gone for Mourinho/Allegri/Mancini/Conte either when Alladyce was booted or at the end of this season and offer them massive money - they would win us a trophy/push us on.

The jury is still out on Silva and next season is sink or swim for Marco but even if he struggles and we got rid we would never attempt going for a big name as thats just not Everton and thats the problem - the level of ambition just isnt there at boardroom and won't be until there is a clear reshuffle at the top.
In effect you are advocating what may be loosely titled the ‘Leeds model’ , spending unsustainable amounts of money in pursuit of transitory success. It is a model which is inherently unstable , dangerous and high risk.
We do not generate the amount of revenue to support such a high spending policy.
 

Its a shambles and I've been slated for arguing this all season.

The fact is its not rocket science - RS have risen because they hired one of the best managers in the game.

Utd have dropped because they have hired unqualified managers like Moyes, Ole, Van Gaal - only Mourinho got some form of proper success there.

I got slated for saying it but for me if we were serious about winning something/challenging top 6 I would have gone for Mourinho/Allegri/Mancini/Conte either when Alladyce was booted or at the end of this season and offer them massive money - they would win us a trophy/push us on.

The jury is still out on Silva and next season is sink or swim for Marco but even if he struggles and we got rid we would never attempt going for a big name as thats just not Everton and thats the problem - the level of ambition just isnt there at boardroom and won't be until there is a clear reshuffle at the top.
You can't use united as an argument, they had unparalleled success under probably the best manager ever in world football.. since then fans expect the same success and very quickly turn on a new manager for not providing it Moyes was given 1 season and many of them wanted him out by Christmas.. and I can't say I blame them slot spent their entire lives only knowing success and a bad season was 2nd and winning the league Cup.. the problem united have is that they have a sense of entitlement built up over the best part of 25 years and as long as they keep comparing managers to Ferguson they will be a manager merry go round.
 
In effect you are advocating what may be loosely titled the ‘Leeds model’ , spending unsustainable amounts of money in pursuit of transitory success. It is a model which is inherently unstable , dangerous and high risk.
We do not generate the amount of revenue to support such a high spending policy.

Its a risk but thats the game now - Wolves risked it all to come up and now they are playing in Europe next season.

If Moshiri is ambitious enough to foot the bill we should be going all out for a top manager. Yes recuritment plays a key role however like us under Martinez you can have good players (Lukaku, Stones, Barkley, Baines, Deulofeu) but still finish 11th behind worse sides like Stoke if the manager isnt good enough to get the best out the players.

I would say the formula to success is 60% manager and 40% recruitment - but the ambition to go for the figures capable of exceeding in those two departments has to come from the board who ultimately do the appointing.

I cant beleive to this day we never replaced Elstone with someone of high quality in the business world.
 
Tell me what's wrong with DBB and who you would like to replace her?

Does she insist on being called Professor?

What qualifications did she have to take over as the CEO of a Premier League Football Club? Was anybody else interviewed for the position?

How long into the exhaustive worldwide search for a project manager for BMD did somebody realize Colin Chong was working for the club? Was anybody else interviewed for the position?
 
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If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.

I know I'm late to the party here, but 1995-2021 will be a longer barren spell, so...
 
Yeah there are two competently different mentalities and fanbases.And i wouldn't change that for anything.Goodison when it's at it's angriest and most boisterous, blows anfield out of the water atmosphere wise.If you find anfield so uplifting, then why don't you just buy a season ticket for there then?
Corky why do you bang go on about the atmosphere at stadiums such as Goodison and Ibrox when you've previously admitted you have never been?

Youy must read a lot of books I'll give you that but don't try and kid on you understand about atmosphere at big games when you haven't experienced any.
 

The ESK suggesting we’ve got nothing to spend well certainly not the money spent over the last two summers.

This is all starting to hit a wall again if it’s case.

Like the Witsel transfer let’s hope he’s wrong.
 
You can't just throw money at the problem and expect it to magically click with a few new signings. It doesn't work like that. We have just spunked hundreds of millions of 0ounds in the last two seasons and we're not further on. In fact now we're stuck with a list of highly paid unmotivated mercenaries that we will struggle to get rid of.

Sandro Ramirez is on 125k a week. He's been on loan in Spain for a season and a half. He didn't even score a goal this season back in his native league. How will we offload the likes of him or Bolasie or Mirallas etc.

That is the toughest job that Brands has this summer. There will be no more reckless spending. On top of all that we need to realise that top footballers are not attracted to Everton. Fine for those who want a big pay packet (see players mentioned above), but not for those who want to win trophies unfortunately.

Unless we free up some of our bloated wage bill we'll have to make do with what we've got for now. On the plus side we did invest heavily in youth players in recent years and hopefully they'll bear fruit.
 
Corky why do you bang go on about the atmosphere at stadiums such as Goodison and Ibrox when you've previously admitted you have never been?

Youy must read a lot of books I'll give you that but don't try and kid on you understand about atmosphere at big games when you haven't experienced any.

Sorry dude when and where did i say that?I think your imagination is running riot again.:)
 
The ESK suggesting we’ve got nothing to spend well certainly not the money spent over the last two summers.

This is all starting to hit a wall again if it’s case.

Like the Witsel transfer let’s hope he’s wrong.

He's becoming a sad little creep on the Twitter, take anything he says with a massive heap of salt
 
It’s not dumb, it’s wilfully blind to not want it to be the same. Political views are how we see what is wrong and right, why you wouldn’t want the things that matter to reflect is odd

I guess I just don't villanize the other side when it comes to politics. I've got a degree in political science, which means nothing.

I prefer to believe everyone wants the same ends, just believe in different means to get there. I prefer to believe people aren't ill willed but I know some are.

That's why I never associate or would want my club to align with my politics. If someone is being oppressed and Everton stands up for them, of course I'd love that.

For example, I'm an American conservative, can't stand trump. Grew up with a single mom who would have benefitted from assistance but refused because she knew she could make it and did. Didn't feel like she deserved it, we still think assistance to some is great. I'm rambling, in the end if Everton weighed in on that issue it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

I enjoy football as a release. Getting politics infused with it is something I'd rather not and I think it's unhealthy.

The Barca vs Madrid, the Celtic vs rangers more so. It's just dumb. It's looking for a fight. I can't stand liverpool but I'm not debating Keynesian economics with them.
 

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