2015 post UK election discussion

[tsubaki]

I agree totally with this, Miliband should have continued as Leader to allow the party some time and space. It would also mean that Labour could draw the post-election Conservative fire without exposing a new leader to collateral damage.

Ordinarily yes, but Miliband led them to the worst General Election result they have ever had, much worse than 1983 and when you bear in mind that he faced a much more benign set of circumstances than Foot did his remaining in post was absolutely out of the question.

 

[peteblue]

I agree totally with this, Miliband should have continued as Leader to allow the party some time and space. It would also mean that Labour could draw the post-election Conservative fire without exposing a new leader to collateral damage.

Just shows what a wimp he really was........

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

There arent any, which is somewhat mad given how much they go on about equality.

What about Liz Kendall, she was at times quite out spoken.

 

[neil999]

farage staying on as leader could be a massive problem for the tories, more defections?

 

[The Esk]

Ordinarily yes, but Miliband led them to the worst General Election result they have ever had, much worse than 1983 and when you bear in mind that he faced a much more benign set of circumstances than Foot did his remaining in post was absolutely out of the question.

With respect I disagree. Miliband proved himself to strong in a number of interviews in the election period, he has frequently got the better of Cameron at PMQs and I think it is asking a huge amount of the new leader (whoever that person is) to come in and perform well at the dispatch box.

Much better to allow time to consider, and let Miliband take all the flack in the House for a while - at least until the summer recess.

Anyway, they're only opinions, your view is as valid as mine.

 

[The Esk]

Just shows what a wimp he really was........

I don't think he was a wimp Pete, genuinely, I just think he made a knee-jerk decision. The old saying about when everyone is losing their heads comes into mind...

 

[peteblue]

Ordinarily yes, but Miliband led them to the worst General Election result they have ever had, much worse than 1983 and when you bear in mind that he faced a much more benign set of circumstances than Foot did his remaining in post was absolutely out of the question.

And there's a name from the past....Michael Foot...what an absolute shambles of a politician......The Russians loved him though.......

 

[SNova]

farage staying on as leader could be a massive problem for the tories, more defections?

Wouldn't surprise me. I also wouldn't rule out a Labour mp defecting.

 

[peteblue]

I don't think he was a wimp Pete, genuinely, I just think he made a knee-jerk decision. The old saying about when everyone is losing their heads comes into mind...

Imagine a knee jerk reaction as PM. I've no doubt he's a decent man and reasonably bright, but he's no leader. Anyway he's gone now, probably to turn up in academia in the USA........

 

[SNova]

Just shows what a wimp he really was........

He's tough mate

 

[peteblue]

farage staying on as leader could be a massive problem for the tories, more defections?

We need a rule that if an MP wishes to 'change sides' that they have a by-election. They fought the seat against a manifesto which they now disown so should have to submit to re-election...............

 

[Tree13]

Oh okay, your wife has worked in both settings. Yes, there are good and bad private and state schools. Am I right in assuming that she has come to the conclusion after working in both settings that private education would be best for your child(ren) in the future?

That's the short version, yes.

Her time working in state schools did not, in her words, produce any reasons why she would alter her initial belief that she would prefer private schooling for her children. I suppose there is an initial bias to consider, but her working in the state sector goes some way to balancing that out.

From my perspective, I enjoyed school and didn't have any complaints. I got a decent set of GCSE results, 12 different subjects between A and C grade (back when A stars didn't exist). However, when I got to postgrad level I felt it was very, very noticeable that it was the state-educated students, myself included, who seemed more likely to struggle with higher academic study. We were very much in the minority on the course too, and my experience was that my privately-educated peers seemed to have experienced a greater depth and breadth in their schooling - several of them spoke multiple languages, could play musical instruments, excelled at a variety of sports and had wider interests that were quite varied. My state schooling hadn't PREVENTED me indulging in any of these things, but their private schooling had actively encouraged their participation.

 

[SNova]

We need a rule that if an MP wishes to 'change sides' that they have a by-election. They fought the seat against a manifesto which they now disown so should have to submit to re-election...............

I may be wrong, but isn't that what Douglas Carswell did or?

 

[Joey66]

I may be wrong, but isn't that what Douglas Carswell did or?

No he did the honourable thing its not compulsory!

 

[neil999]

We need a rule that if an MP wishes to 'change sides' that they have a by-election. They fought the seat against a manifesto which they now disown so should have to submit to re-election...............

agree, i'd like to see the tories in trouble...buts its a stupid rule