2022 World Cup

[Allezfan]

Not following your logic here.

Are you implying that those in attendance in 1994 were just casual supporters or worse, tourists?

Yeah, we'll have some supporters from other countries here (should have seen the Cotton Bowl in '94 for the Brazil vs. Holland quarterfinal....entire stadium had green and yellow with several big sections of orange and white....very cool to see....great game too) but there are a lot of supporters here in the USA. MLS, EPL, La Liga, etc....

If the World Cup were to be held here again, the attendance records would be broken once again (lots of newer stadiums since '94 which hold more people too...)

I'm implying that most American World cup fans watch the world cup and little other football yes.

Like how people like me only watch the Ashes and Wimbledon and the Rugby World cup and know very little about the sports the rest of the year.

The viewing figures back me up on that.

You're a big country and a country that is into sports so on a big occassion even a minority sport like Football which isn't as popular as 'the big 4' but is still quite popular will get big crowds. I'm not arguing that.

In the same way if a basketball world cup was held in England I might go and see a few games despite knowing very little about the sport.

But if we got the baseball world cup twice in a time period where Venezuela, the USA and Cuba didn't get it once. Or if we got the Hockey world cup as many times as Russia and Canada I would start going hold on this is a nice spectacle and all but shouldn't the real fans whose countries live and breathe this stuff get it instead.

Out of the last five and the next three world cups, only 1 will be in Latin America where they've fought wars over football matches before, only 3 will be in Europe or Western Asia where you don't even ask people if they like football you ask them which team they support, 1 will be in Africa where there's a huge developing fanbase and 3 will be in countries that like football but prefer other sports.

I'm not joking when I say I'd rather see it in Ghana than Australia even though I know the ghanians would do a worse job and most Ghanians couldn't afford tickets to see the games resulting in low attendences. Because I think it'll matter more to them then to the majority of australians.

You guys getting it once, I'm okay with. Twice since it's been held in Italy, less so.

 

[TX Bill]

Europe shouldn't be seeing it again until we get it again. That much is fair. Since Brazil is getting it in 2014, that rules out any South American teams.

I could go with Australia. I guess if anyone might have a real complaint over us getting it, it would be Mexico. They hosted 8 years prior to us and would probably wonder why we'd get to host it again over them getting a chance to host.

 

[Allezfan]

Europe shouldn't be seeing it again until we get it again. That much is fair. Since Brazil is getting it in 2014, that rules out any South American teams.

Antartica in 2026 then?

 

[TX Bill]

Antartica in 2026 then?

I'm all for that.

Warmer than Russia. On a serious note, would China be a consideration?

 

[Allezfan]

I'm all for that.

Warmer than Russia. On a serious note, would China be a consideration?

Well for FIFA probably. They won't care where the money comes from. I can't say I would like to support those murderous bastards, mind.

And I still think its bollocks to try and represent every continent. The big teams with the big supports are from South America and Europe. No other continent has ever won it or indeed made it to a final. And I think its only you guys and the South Koreans who have ever made the last 4.

Those two continents should get it 3/4 of the time not 1/2. I see no reason why South America can't have it twice in twelve years or Europe twice in a row.

 

[Nordecke]

Well for FIFA probably. They won't care where the money comes from. I can't say I would like to support those murderous bastards, mind.

And I still think its bollocks to try and represent every continent. The big teams with the big supports are from South America and Europe. No other continent has ever won it or indeed made it to a final. And I think its only you guys and the South Koreans who have ever made the last 4.

Those two continents should get it 3/4 of the time not 1/2. I see no reason why South America can't have it twice in twelve years or Europe twice in a row.

Funny how when FIFA turns a profit they are Murderous bastards, but When joe blows favoritte footy player chases the money trail it's all good.

In one sentence people scream that football is the WORLDs greatest sport, than in the next sentence claim that Europe and S. America are somehow entitled to host the biggest event in the WORLD 3/4's of the time .

GTFOH

 

[teppic]

Euro 96 had loads of empty seats.

I wanted to go to a match but it was 40 quid for a seat. That was back in 96!

Part of the World Cup for me is mad teams playing each other at 3:30 in the morning.

Anyway to put and end to all the debate

2018 England
2022 USA


Nailed.

 

[Allezfan]

In one sentence people scream that football is the WORLDs greatest sport, than in the next sentence claim that Europe and S. America are somehow entitled to host the biggest event in the WORLD 3/4's of the time .

GTFOH

I've never said Football is the Worlds greatest sport or that the World Cup is the biggest event in the world and if some random person I've never met said it, I see no particular reason why I can't contradict that. It's only hypocrisy when the same person says both things. When two different people say things that contradict each other that's just two people having different opinions.

Plus those two statements don't even contradict each other. Saying that its the worlds biggest something doesn't imply that it belongs to the world. China has the worlds biggest population because there is no other population as big as China's. That doesn't mean that the world has joint ownership of China's people and we should all kidnap one and take him home. People who call Football the world's biggest sport presumably just mean that there is no other sport in the world as big. Not that its a communally owned toy that needs to be shared out equally between every country (though if it was theres over 180 countries who have never hosted it who would come before both America and England).

 

[Allezfan]

Funny how when FIFA turns a profit they are Murderous bastards, but When joe blows favoritte footy player chases the money trail it's all good.

Oh and I never called FIFA murderous bastards, I called the chinese government murderous bastards and said I didn't want a world cup in China that would give them money.

Plus again it's not hypocrisy when there's a contradiction between something I said and something someone else said. I never agreed to share a strangers opinion.

 

[teppic]

China's changing, man.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11564634