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2024/25 Relegation Thread

But you're analysing things only in terms of Wolves- arguably we want them to take care of the likes of Ipswich and Leicester. The most likely three teams to be relegated remain the three promoted teams. I agree though that beating Wolves is absolutely massive for us in terms of maintaining an insurance policy.

If you read my other posts I've actually already said Southampton are as good as down and after a bright start Ipswich still haven't won a game and so heading the same way.

Leicester however have more resilience about them than say Burnley and Luton did last season. They've been in pretty much every game this season despite playing poorly in most of them and much of their fanbase not wanting Cooper as manager so I don't think people can quite bank on them having a long winless run like the other two.

They're plodding along on a point a game currently and them finishing this season in the 35-40 point bracket feels about right.
 
If ever there was a perfect game to sum up why he shouldn't get an extension it was that. Didn't even try to go on the front foot against a woeful West Ham side where the fans were silent and the manager looks a dead man walking. Had we scored the toxicity levels would have matched what we often see at Goodison.

He's very limited as a manager, the players don't seem to be interested and he's horrible to listen too. We badly need to move on.
 
December could be a pivotal month:
  • Probably lose all games
  • Takeover complete 🤞
  • Sack Dyche :celebrate:
  • Transfer window on the horizon
  • Onwards and upwards
 
We’ve squandered a relatively easy run of opening fixtures. Would not be surprised if we are in the relegation zone by New Year.
The key is the next two home games against Brentford and Wolves. We need to build a cushion before December. If we can claw our way to 16 before that run of games it takes a bit of pressure off in the short term.
 

December could be a pivotal month:
  • Probably lose all games
  • Takeover complete 🤞
  • Sack Dyche :celebrate:
  • Transfer window on the horizon
  • Onwards and upwards
We have Wolves and Forest at home in December, plus two other games where we won the equivalent game last season. It's a tough month but not exactly a write-off!
 
Given the fixtures I fully expect us to be in the bottom three come the new year. The best we can hope for is for there to just be a few points in it in terms of getting out the relegation places. A couple of signings In January and we can hopefully pull ourselves clear.
 
We have Wolves and Forest at home in December, plus two other games where we won the equivalent game last season. It's a tough month but not exactly a write-off!

Different dynamic to playing them all within 2-3 week period. For example playing RS 70 hours after Wolves won't be easy with the effort needed to put in to win that.

As we're seeing currently the only options off the bench Dyche wants to use is Beto and Harrison so it's a very small squad operating going into the most congested part of the season. Also a few players creeping up to suspensions now.

Really need all of Garner, Tim and Broja available after the break just to make the bench look stronger.
 
Different dynamic to playing them all within 2-3 week period. For example playing RS 70 hours after Wolves won't be easy with the effort needed to put in to win that.

As we're seeing currently the only options off the bench Dyche wants to use is Beto and Harrison so it's a very small squad operating going into the most congested part of the season. Also a few players creeping up to suspensions now.

Really need all of Garner, Tim and Broja available after the break just to make the bench look stronger.
Yeah I know what you're saying but then when we beat Chelsea last time it was a Sunday after a win on the Thursday night v Newcastle and when we beat Liverpool it was a Wednesday after a win on the Sunday v Forest, so similar timeframes. So I guess confidence / momentum can trump fatigue - like I say in a post above the absolute key is getting some confidence going by winning the winnable home games.
 

Point gained on Southampton and Palace. It depends on what Leicester and Ipswich get this weekend, which might be nothing given their fixtures. If that is the case it's a decent weekend for us given we rarely win away.
 
We have Wolves and Forest at home in December, plus two other games where we won the equivalent game last season. It's a tough month but not exactly a write-off!

Completely ridiculous writing games off just as it’s ridiculous looking at a fixture and saying we’ll win that. All games in the PL are difficult, especially away from home, for all teams. Fulham just slapped Palace on their own ground, West Ham beat United at their place. Teams will drop points at Ipswich. Equally though there’s an opportunity for points every game. We’ll pick up points in December no doubt in my mind.
 
If you read my other posts I've actually already said Southampton are as good as down and after a bright start Ipswich still haven't won a game and so heading the same way.

Leicester however have more resilience about them than say Burnley and Luton did last season. They've been in pretty much every game this season despite playing poorly in most of them and much of their fanbase not wanting Cooper as manager so I don't think people can quite bank on them having a long winless run like the other two.

They're plodding along on a point a game currently and them finishing this season in the 35-40 point bracket feels about right.

I'm not sure Leicester will keep it up. A lot of their points have come from late goals and as you've said they have not looked good this season. They also have a thin squad and still might have to answer to a charge with a possible point deduction.

I feel that they will struggle to get 30 points this season and have a hard run of games coming up. If they beat man utd tomorrow then I may change my thoughts on what they can do but I would fancy us over them all day every day.
 

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