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2024/25 Relegation Thread

To be fair, that's been the case for the last 3 years and we've somehow stayed up, due to some truly awful teams. FIngers crossed that Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester don't improve or buy any players.
Lets hope so mate. Because we can't keep getting away with other teams being horrific and little purple patches saving us. At some point we're gonna run out of luck.
 
This team has shown over the past 5 years that if they're expected to win, or should win, they can't handle the pressure. They've managed to scrape together enough unexpected points to survive, so I suppose we have to hope they do it again.

It's the Goodison form that is concerning me. Only seem to be consistent at home from March onwards in these relegation battles but not sure that will work this season given the away form has declined again. 12 months back it was pretty good.

On course for three home wins currently which will have the club relegated by early May. Up to Feb it's Wolves, RS, Chelsea, Forest, Villa and Spurs at home so struggling to see more than one win and the odd draw from those.

Hope I'm wrong.
 

As we are, it’s hard to see how we get anything from now until the new year.

However… the hope is we have a new owner and manager in very soon. That for me changes expectations.

Then some new players in come the end of January.
 
What are you watching that makes you sure of this though? We can’t score goals.
We’re competitive in matches against mid level sides which has frequently not been the case of late. This group seems lies fragile at the moment, albeit uninspiring.

Make no mistake it won’t be fun, but i believe there is a very good chance to skip much of the drama this spring - esp with some modest but productive transfer activity
 

What dream?

The difference in the teams below. Well one look at their fixture lists so far compared to ours.
Also a team like Wolves. Even when they were way below Everton points wise you could see the way they were playing would lift them up the table. A manager who encourages his team to play attacking passing football. We've got a manager who over a 10 year period has managed more games than his teams have scored goals. That takes some doing. We basically try to grind out 1-0 wins.
HIs coaching and approach to games is so stale. He's a football dinosaur.
 
We’re competitive in matches against mid level sides which has frequently not been the case of late. This group seems lies fragile at the moment, albeit uninspiring.

Make no mistake it won’t be fun, but i believe there is a very good chance to skip much of the drama this spring - esp with some modest but productive transfer activity

What points total do you think will comfortably keep the team up?

Currently on course for 33 points from 36 games so it's very much going to be like 22/23 unless a managerial change is imminent.

To be comfortable team is going to have to perform significantly better in next 12 games than the first 12 and that looks near impossible with the quality of teams in that run and very often playing some of those fixtures in 3-4 day gaps rather than a week to recover.

Don't beat Wolves and I could genuinely see 13 points from the first 18 games with losses to Man. United, RS, Arsenal and Man. City. Will give a draw at home to Chelsea as they don't like playing at Goodison much in last five years.

That would be worse return than Lampard was posting at this point in 2022.
 
Candidly I don’t get the angst. I know people are frustrated with Dyche but Everton will be fine this season
United, Wolves, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Forest.

That run suggests we'll be bottom of the league by Jan 1. Think I'd expect 2 points from this run. That would put us on 13 points from 19 games.
 

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