2024/25 Relegation Thread

[If You Know Your History]

Hugely encouraging start to the Moyes era. Villa are in the CL, but they certainly didn't outclass us.

Onana should have been sent off in the first half and we should have had a penalty, but thems the breaks.

We now have nine cup finals before we say goodbye to Goodison.

Saw Dom in the players' lounge and he looked desperately sad.

 

[The Littlest Yobo]

Hugely encouraging start to the Moyes era. Villa are in the CL, but they certainly didn't outclass us.

Onana should have been sent off in the first half and we should have had a penalty, but thems the breaks.

We now have nine cup finals before we say goodbye to Goodison.

Saw Dom in the players' lounge and he looked desperately sad.

I was desperately sad watching him.

 

[Vintage]

Tonight was one of the least worrisome nights of the season

Oh I dunno, I'm feeling the opposite. Was feeling positive going into this game with a new manager bounce etc and Villa not being able to keep a clean sheet that the team might just actually score but only created one good chance. Maybe 2 half chances. Plus Villa just sat back once they scored

 

[marsh]

Literally relying on 3 teams being abit worse than we are

 

[lieneverton]

I mean it's hard to watch that and not be worried. But, mainly because the bar is so so low, there were signs of improvement. Still naff all quality but a little bit more attacking impetus, and even though we weren't good, it was very unfortunate not to be looking at a point.

Like everyone else, I'm hoping with a couple of new faces, a couple of players back from injury and Moyes' methods hopefully land more, we'll see an improvement with results soon. But that's the issue, we don't have the luxury of time. We need things to come together in these coming weeks, not in a few months.

 

[knowing your history]

Hugely encouraging start to the Moyes era. Villa are in the CL, but they certainly didn't outclass us.

Onana should have been sent off in the first half and we should have had a penalty, but thems the breaks.

We now have nine cup finals before we say goodbye to Goodison.

Saw Dom in the players' lounge and he looked desperately sad.

Villa didn't even get out of second gear tonight and still should've scored three.

Made one change in 81st minute and had likes of Duran and Bailey as unused subs so they had one eye on Arsenal away on Saturday.

I think Spurs is not far off a must win now. There are nine home games left. Even a 3-3-3 for rest of the season (which looks optimistic) only gets the team to 29 points and it's a real struggle to see much on the road with what is left.

Only positive is Wolves bizarrely are having to play all the top teams in a row just like they had to do in the first 10 games so they've certainly had the short straw of all teams with fixtures this season.

It's certainly two from four now with Southampton dead and buried.

 

[Gilbert..]

Literally relying on 3 teams being abit worse than we are

I can see ipswich going above us tomorrow.
Its a straight up fight now.
2 from 4.
Leicester
Wolves
Ipswich
Everton.

 

[knowing your history]

I mean it's hard to watch that and not be worried. But, mainly because the bar is so so low, there were signs of improvement. Still naff all quality but a little bit more attacking impetus, and even though we weren't good, it was very unfortunate not to be looking at a point.

Like everyone else, I'm hoping with a couple of new faces, a couple of players back from injury and Moyes' methods hopefully land more, we'll see an improvement with results soon. But that's the issue, we don't have the luxury of time. We need things to come together in these coming weeks, not in a few months.

Yep. I can already see people now saying not to worry as Ipswich and Southampton at home are right at the end. It could be too late by then. Beating those two only gets to 23 points so going to need a further 13 points on top of that if we go by 22/23 and what was needed.

Leicester is an obvious must win and I'd argue Spurs aswell just to get into the 20s. Going to need two away wins from somewhere aswell, ideally Wolves.

It's a big ask when you've only scored 15 goals all season.

 

[mccole]

We played better but Moyes has only been here since Monday so I hope he finds a formula.

I thought Patterson deserved a start especially after the cup game when he proved to be an outlet.

Garner will be our right midfield once he is back it's nailed on. If Moyes, uses Ndiaye as his number 10, he will unlock this talent.

Our big issue is strikers, Broja out, Beto isn't good enough, Chemiti is nowhere to be seen and DCL looks drained.

We desperately need some creativity because we can't just have 1 chance in 90 minutes for our forwards.

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Oh I dunno, I'm feeling the opposite. Was feeling positive going into this game with a new manager bounce etc and Villa not being able to keep a clean sheet that the team might just actually score but only created one good chance. Maybe 2 half chances. Plus Villa just sat back once they scored

Exactly my feelings. It was a bit different. Some of the passing was quicker (which meant we misplaced them and miscontrolled them), players slightly higher up (JB maybe too high like he did in the cup but this time against far better players). We’ve never been short of effort, and same tonight. But we keep playing these good teams that aren’t in amazing form and whilst fighting really hard, create almost nothing and conspire to lose.

The longform Moyes interview in the press room is terrifying. We have not got enough quality (like really not enough), desperately need to bring some in, limited by PSR, so if they won’t improve the team then we won’t bother.

Expected Moyes to be gutted at losing, but he sounded defeatist already.

 

[Drico]

I think I'm past caring now. The club deserves to drop. Dyche should have been gone by November and the new owners should have had a plan for December. Neither happened. Sorry, Moyes is never the solution. His appointment has demoralised me. Worse, there's nothing about him that can galvanise the fanbase. The excitement isn't there. Half the fanbase greeted his appointment with a sigh - or a silent scream. Even Lampard, the clown, had a frisson of curiosity about him, even if many of us knew he'd be a disaster.

I just don't think I can be bothered any more. Staying up, getting a new stadium, and having new owners promised hope. Instead, we've got Davey back and no new manager bounce. He has to get something out of Sunday or this could go south very quickly. I'm not sure I can bring myself to the emotional investment, though. Won't get fooled again.

 

[Dharma]

We are so lucky results keep going for us. No way can that last.

Looks like we're gone this time.

 

[knowing your history]

I can see ipswich going above us tomorrow.
Its a straight up fight now.
2 from 4.
Leicester
Wolves
Ipswich
Everton.

Leicester have gone pretty rubbish at least. I could understand why they sacked Cooper but they'd have more points on the board now if he was still there.

Wonder if they're considering sacking Van Nistelrooy already as I think a Dyche type manager would still have a chance of keeping them up.

 

[Gilbert..]

Leicester have gone pretty rubbish at least. I could understand why they sacked Cooper but they'd have more points on the board now if he was still there.

Wonder if they're considering sacking Van Nistelrooy already as I think a Dyche type manager would still have a chance of keeping them up.

Lol imagine it, at the expense of Everton. They are 6 losses on the bounce now.
The way things pan out now i wouldnt bet against it.

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

I still think with Garner, Tim, and Dwight all back we’ll have more than enough to stay up. And then seriously jettison and rebuild.