2024/25 Relegation Thread

[coollino]

Wolves next 9 games are very winnable for them.

Yea Ive been thinking wolves are about to go on a 9 game winning streak too

 

[jonnyboy316]

January isn't great either. Bournemouth away which is a massive mental block ground for this team then homes to Villa and Everton within four days (neither have lost at Goodison in ages) and then Brighton away although tend to do better down there than at home to them.

Winning yesterday was great but what gets mid table is back to back wins and then runs like 4 wins in 6 which we had this time last year.

It is possible with the fixture list as I fancy the chances of a win v Fulham much more with Joachim Andersen suspended. Southampton away should be another win similar to yesterday and West Ham might be in crisis mode when going there.

Yep there is a chance of a 4 game winning run which would extract us from the battle this year if we pulled it off

 

[bluestevon]

I doubt they are very winnable for a team with one win v a relegated Luton, 14 defeats and 3 draws in a near 8 months.

Wolves are beyond screwed, find it funny that he thinks there next 9 are winnable when there next games away at Brighton though.

If wolves aren't well clear of the relegation zone by the end of that 9 game run, they'll be down by march.

There 8 games after this run consists of United, Spurs, Forest, Newcastle, Chelsea, Arsenal, Villa, Liverpool.

Could see them at the 25 game point having around 12 points.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

That's on course for comfortable mid table, the reality for safety is more like 16 points at the halfway mark. Hard to see 3/4 teams cracking 30 points.

I wouldn’t like to run things as close as that though, 34 points would probably see us safe, but I would still prefer us to be at 40 and well away from the relegation conversation. So I am still targeting 10 wins and 10 draws. I don’t think it’s too hard, it’s basically 3 wins and 3 draws from the next 11 games to put us on track by the midway point of the season

 

[Blue Willy]

IMO, Southampton and Ipswich are gonners already.

Really dont know about that third spot, but I’d say Leicester are the next worst. I think Wolves and us are similar, but fully expect Palace to pull away once they click.

We will know more in Jan, but Id suggest we all strap ourselves in for December

 

[knowing your history]

I wouldn’t like to run things as close as that though, 34 points would probably see us safe, but I would still prefer us to be at 40 and well away from the relegation conversation. So I am still targeting 10 wins and 10 draws. I don’t think it’s too hard, it’s basically 3 wins and 3 draws from the next 11 games to put us on track by the midway point of the season

Yeah just aiming for 34-35 points due to low safety tallies is a lack of ambition. Everyone remembers how bad 22/23 was right, horrible form at Goodison in the winter months and also going 5-6 months without an away win as happened in 21/22.

The team showed on the pitch last season it's capable of 45-50 so get into that points bracket and you're picking up wins and certainly draws on a regular basis so much better for the heart and mind!

 

[knowing your history]

IMO, Southampton and Ipswich are gonners already.

Really dont know about that third spot, but I’d say Leicester are the next worst. I think Wolves and us are similar, but fully expect Palace to pull away once they click.

We will know more in Jan, but Id suggest we all strap ourselves in for December

Beat Fulham and Wolves lose at Brighton and already there's a 9 point gap with a far better GD. Even at this early stage of the season that's a huge points gap to overhaul.

Was never that significant gap in 22/23 with Leicester and Leeds IIRC or even last season with Luton although we know the reasons for that.

 

[mikel_88]

Also as much as i hate saying this alot of this team has experience of this now. Same with the manager have had the pressure of fighting relegation and having the point deductions to have must win games. Not to sure why people think palace will just get out of it think once down there and pressure starts to build on team and manager is hard get out of it. Dyche got lucky to keep his job during the run we had oneil and glasner have owners/boards who i dont think would give the chance dyche got to turn it around.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Beat Fulham and Wolves lose at Brighton and already there's a 9 point gap with a far better GD. Even at this early stage of the season that's a huge points gap to overhaul.

Was never that significant gap in 22/23 with Leicester and Leeds IIRC or even last season with Luton although we know the reasons for that.

Points are so precious down that end that even the 4 point gap we’ve got at the moment is massive when you’re talking about teams below that haven’t won a single game in 8 between them.

It doesn’t look a big gap but when you’re talking about teams averaging less than 0.5 ppg every point you pull away is huge. The next 4 games represent a massive opportunity.

 

[Miked1e]

Points are so precious down that end that even the 4 point gap we’ve got at the moment is massive when you’re talking about teams below that haven’t won a single game in 8 between them.

It doesn’t look a big gap but when you’re talking about teams averaging less than 0.5 ppg every point you pull away is huge. The next 4 games represent a massive opportunity.

Even this weekend to start off with:

Everton vs Fulham
Brentford vs Ipswich
Brighton vs Wolves
Man City vs Southampton

Wolves and Southampton could easily remain on 1 point with Ipswich also unlikely to get anything.

Providing we continue to way we are then 9 games in 7 points away from relegation spots and 10 points from the bottom 2. This is massive already.

 

[Joey66]

We will be OK as long as we don't get signalled out for a points' deduction again ?

 

[Tony’s Carp]

We will be OK as long as we don't get signalled out for a points' deduction again ?

Think you’re right mate, seen enough from this group to say 40+ points ought not to be a problem really. Defence looks to be getting a grip now and with Ndiaye and the position switch for McNeil we look to have more goals in us this season than last (and that’s without DCL firing).

 

[Marius57]

January isn't great either. Bournemouth away which is a massive mental block ground for this team then homes to Villa and Everton within four days (neither have lost at Goodison in ages) and then Brighton away although tend to do better down there than at home to them.

Winning yesterday was great but what gets mid table is back to back wins and then runs like 4 wins in 6 which we had this time last year.

It is possible with the fixture list as I fancy the chances of a win v Fulham much more with Joachim Andersen suspended. Southampton away should be another win similar to yesterday and West Ham might be in crisis mode when going there.

If we lose to ourselves, do we still get the points?

 

[neil999]

Imagine we had 1 point from 9 games...I'm sure noone would be worried due to our upcoming 'winnable fixtures'

 

[Titus Bramble]

Imagine we had 1 point from 9 games...I'm sure noone would be worried due to our upcoming 'winnable fixtures'

And I'm sure we'd all be saying "ahhh we've had the hardest fixtures, we'll improve"