6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Furey1878]

There is the assumption that the 22/23 books are in breach as well, I`ve heard we couldn`t account exactly for the latest period due to the ongoing appeal so left the final amount asterisked and likely to change.

Obviously the PL have taken exception to this.... With a loss of c£40m in 21/22 and I`d expect similar or less in the 22/23 period whch is yet to be released. I don`t think we have breached again.

The reason I say that is because in the 22/23 calculation the year 18/19 drops off which was a £111m loss, I believe the majority of that would have been down to wages and/or player trading.

To illustrates this....

2022 alleged breach
18/19 -£111.8m
19/20 -£139.8m Averaged due to COVID
20/21 -£120.9m Averaged due to COVID
21/22 -£44.7m

2023 Calc
19/20 -£139.8m Averaged due to COVID
20/21 -£120.9m Averaged due to COVID
21/22 -£44.7m
22/23 ??? Due to be released but I imagine it will be inline or less than the previous season due to the cutting of squad, transfers out and cutting wages.

Isn't it only a 3 year rolling period?

 

[Goat]

I believe that he is.
I do believe that he gets information from the club and because he works for SKY he will get more than most, but he discloses what he is allowed to disclose at any time.

He does nothing but chat complete and utter wham.

 

[Iana]

Isn't it only a 3 year rolling period?

The anomaly in the 21/22 rolling period is that is actually 4 years as the 2 COVID years have been added together and then averaged to create one number.

 

[ForeverEverton]

I don’t think it was that much but for 21/22 season which we have been deducted 10 points we would only be able to claim maximum 4 months(the war started in Feb 22) of the sponsorship money as a mitigation for that period. We still need another mitigation to be accepted to be compliant for the 3 year period ending 21/22….player X perhaps?
It becomes a much bigger factor in the 22/23 calculations because that would be a full year of lost sponsorship.

Unless they can prove the previous year was paid upfront ahead of the period....

I still can`t believe we have breached again in 2023 when we were shedding costs and players right left and centre. and we made a profit on player trading of £6.5m in 2022 and £25.4m in 2023....

 

[Clarky cat]

I news are saying that Everton think the appeal result is not imminent and will be middle of next week and definitely before the end of the month.

When Everton's FFP verdict is due and what it means for 777’s takeover

Everton have always felt they can reduce the punishment on appeal with the outcome of the hearing expected before the end of the month

inews.co.uk

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Shhh everyone, I think I can hear something . .

 

[ForeverEverton]

Isn't it only a 3 year rolling period?

COVID is a 2 year average....

 

[blueblue]

He does nothing but chat complete and utter wham.

I don't agree but I have no problem with people thinking differently.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

No.

OK.

 

[Furey1878]

The anomaly in the 21/22 rolling period is that is actually 4 years as the 2 COVID years have been added together and then averaged to create one number.

COVID is a 2 year average....

Thanks lads, understood

 

[Shibbywiggles]

If we don't get any back, we assume Forest get at least equal our punishment -10 and fall to 11 points and we're out the bottom 3 by 6 points.

The second one will surely see common sense regarding punishment for the same period.

If they uphold the original ten point deduction I don’t see why we would expect any level of common sense from them ever again!

They’ll probably take off the exact amount needed to send us down after the last game of the season.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

If they uphold the original ten point deduction I don’t see why we would expect any level of common sense from them ever again!

They’ll probably take off the exact amount needed to send us down after the last game of the season.

I reckon Everton may take legal action in this case

 

[Titus Bramble]

Not necessarily I think. It depends on how far over they have us for the second charge

If they accept some of the mitigation in the appeal, then that mitigation could potentially make us compliant, or close to being compliant for the second period.

I don't know the figures so I have no idea if this is likely, but it could be a potential scenario if we are over by less second time around.

All that said, if they don't reduce our penalty this time around, I would fully expect another severe penalty second time round.

Ultimately it's all guesswork - without any confirmation from the original sanction or from our upcoming appeal, we won't know how the commission came to the conclusions they did, and it doesn't look like we'll be getting that confirmation either.

They could be making it up as they go along for all we know.

 

[Yarrgh]

I news are saying that Everton think the appeal result is not imminent and will be middle of next week and definitely before the end of the month.

When Everton's FFP verdict is due and what it means for 777’s takeover

Everton have always felt they can reduce the punishment on appeal with the outcome of the hearing expected before the end of the month

inews.co.uk

What do they mean by "end of the month"?

I hope the great minds of GOT will be able to work out the answer.

 

[Swagger]

I reckon Everton may take legal action in this case

Issue with legal action is that the process takes a long time and Everton would already be relegated before the outcome. The Premier League have created a complete mess.