6 + 2 Point Deductions

[neil999]

I've read the full article now. Mentions the appeal board having the option to increase the points deduction.

No chance

 

[gwladysnight]

Yes. At a time when the rules/calculation that landed us minus ten DIDN'T EXIST!

You are missing the point.

The Premier League as part of the process had to state what punishment they thought was fair. As there was no precedent they came up with a formula to indicate what punishment they thought was fair. The Independent Commission rejected the formula.

That then made the formula redundant.

 

[Moderatelywarmwater]

No chance

If Moshiri is involved you can never say that

 

[RD2910]

Beyond reasonable doubt is for criminal cases. The burden of proof in this case will be the much lower 'balance of probabilities'. In essence, all they will have to decide is whether it was likely that Everton committing a serious breach of P&S rules affected the relegation battle.

Legal cases are usually decided by legal precedents. Given the Sheff Wed case, it is likely that they will find that a serious breach gave us a significant sporting advantage.

The Sheffield Wednesday case also says a sporting advantage is to be inferred, but that the points deduction is not intended to assess and reflect the sporting benefit of the breach. It says that would be likely impossible to quantify.

There's certainly nothing in it to be used as a precedent to conclude that Everton got a 'significant' sporting advantage.

 

[Lloydaldo11]

So the panel to decide compensation is the same “independent” panel who have connections to the aforementioned clubs.

Conflict of interest let alone corruption?

No way can the PL try to dodge the optics of how this looks if those same shady characters that plucked a special “Everton” penalty then decide to award compensation to clubs that they firstly have historical links to and secondly amount to compensation without sound measure or precedence let alone a pre-agreed formula.

Making it up as they go along, no wonder VAR is a mess

 

[blulouie]

IAN HERBERT: The goalposts moved in Everton's case

IAN HERBERT: Everton were given the impression that the cost of interest on loans to build their new stadium would not be included in sustainability considerations, just like with Manchester City.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Coherent and balanced from the Mail. The world's gone mad!

Changing the accounting rules on building stadia after the build has started hasn't had enough air time imo.

Very good article by Ian Herbert that.
I suggest everyone reads it.

It's got me thinking we should go for a full overturn of the ridiculous punishment they metered out on Friday.

Now rules are rules we all get that , but it falls flat when the governors of the rules can change them whenever & however they choose to forcefully push their political decisions.

Their judgement has lost all credibility now , let's not accept a "lesser" punishment, that almost looks like we should be grateful for it and the PL with their "indendent????" panel deemed justified.

Bring the whole corrupt system down , accept nothing less than FULL OVERTURN.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

People really shouldn't be shocked we're on board with these lot.

Sure, Newcastle have way more to gain with the players in Saudi but given our lack of room to maneuver with transfers, we could use the 777 group to pick up players on loan from Vasco and Genoa that we otherwise couldn't take a punt on. Even Sevilla maybe.

Look at the state of the teams we are aligned with there. The scum of the league.

 

[DuncansPigeons]

Interesting thought on those who think the KC has compromised or is acting with a conflict of interest. He can be referred to his professional body for review

The Bar standards might be worth a submission or 2

 

[blulouie]

I've read the full article now. Mentions the appeal board having the option to increase the points deduction.

I'd wager they don't.

 

[MikeH72]

Hope its us doing all the snitching. I like Spurs but want us to throw everyones dirty laundry out there.

Luton will be winning the league at this rate.

???

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Probably because it didn't happen.

The accounting rules haven't changed. What changed was that we published our accounts and a charge was registered with Companies House showing that the Rights and media funding loan was for working capital for day-to-day running and not for the Stadium.

The Stadium costs ARE permissible deductions and do not count towards our P&S losses.

We were trying to claim for interest on the commercial loans from Metro Bank and Rights and Media funding by pretending they were being used for the Stadium when they were not.

The Stadium was being funded by interest-free loans from Moshiri.

Cash is fungible.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

What punishment will we get in the end?

Neal Maupay comes back and we have to play Michael Keane.

''Can we stick with the 10 point deduction please?''

 

[blulouie]

???

There's some Worms slithering out the tin that's just been opened.

Hope it's a steady stream of them.

 

[Lloydaldo11]

Very good article by Ian Herbert that.
I suggest everyone reads it.

It's got me thinking we should go for a full overturn of the ridiculous punishment they metered out on Friday.

Now rules are rules we all get that , but it falls flat when the governors of the rules can change them whenever & however they choose to forcefully push their political decisions.

Their judgement has lost all credibility now , let's not accept a "lesser" punishment, that almost looks like we should be grateful for it and the PL with their "indendent????" panel deemed justified.

Bring the whole corrupt system down , accept nothing less than FULL OVERTURN.

100% agree

There are some who are arguing the judgement was correct and we are bang to right and that’s fair enough and their view… HOWEVER in the case that even if it’s clear someone is bang to rights, if the approach that led to a decision was made without good faith or incorrectly then it would be determined a mistrial. In this case the panel and the method of which the prem brought the case to hearing has been an utter shambles and embarrassment to the league so in that case we should be going hammer and tongue to get the whole thing quashed.

 

[davek]

IAN HERBERT: The goalposts moved in Everton's case

IAN HERBERT: Everton were given the impression that the cost of interest on loans to build their new stadium would not be included in sustainability considerations, just like with Manchester City.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Coherent and balanced from the Mail. The world's gone mad!

Changing the accounting rules on building stadia after the build has started hasn't had enough air time imo.

Spot on. He's written two good articles now on this.

The PL and their stooges on that 'independent' committee know Everton are getting aa shafting. from them. THE KNOW IT.