6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Walken]

Disappointed with that

 

[RD2910]

Jim with all due respect, and hopefully trying come across as civil, have you really read the report? Don’t believe what’s written by helmets like Matt Hughes.

They’ve basically done us by not taking into account our main sponsor being sanctioned because of a war (allegedly we should always take things like that into account), one of our players that couldn’t sell for obvious reasons, and for stadium loan interest which was allowed before we started building but suspiciously changed. We’ve worked with the Premier League who have moved the goalposts throughout.

They even don’t specifically say we had any sporting advantage. So a sporting sanction doesn’t fit the alleged breach.

They do say there was a sporting advantage.

 

[marnie]

As a leeds fan, I think I have 4 takes on this.

1 - The 10 pts mean very little this year. There are 3 terrible teams in the league, you'll stay up with 30 points probably. Can't see the penalty resulting in relegation.

2 - You broke FFP. You did so knowingly and then tried to cover it up with dodgy accounting. The penalty is fair enough - You got caught and lied about it. Suck it up.

3 - Your big problem isnt the 10 pts, its Burnley and Leicester. Leeds, Southampton etc.....have very small claims, which amount to a couple of million for being 'cheated' out of a place in the league, but neither resulted in a substantial impact. Burnley and Leicester however..........You could easily be looking at a couple of hundred million compensation and all the fun and games that come with that.

4 - This is for the 21-22 season. Your still not compliant with FFP today, so need to fix that pronto or you'll be proper hammered. As a result, there is an urgent need to sell players and reduce the wage bill - and forget about strengthening. I think this (and the 3rd point) are your main issues. The 10 pts won't mean a whole lot and is short term - a big compensation bill and a wage bill that is hugely out of kilter with your revenue are longer term problems that could bury you for a good long time.

Jim We are NEA MATE. Watch us come back and rob a couple of yer players in January. You is our little BISH .

 

[Lloydaldo11]

They do say there was a sporting advantage.

They’re also a gang of raging Covid deniers…

 

[Goat]

As a leeds fan, I think I have 4 takes on this.

1 - The 10 pts mean very little this year. There are 3 terrible teams in the league, you'll stay up with 30 points probably. Can't see the penalty resulting in relegation.

2 - You broke FFP. You did so knowingly and then tried to cover it up with dodgy accounting. The penalty is fair enough - You got caught and lied about it. Suck it up.

3 - Your big problem isnt the 10 pts, its Burnley and Leicester. Leeds, Southampton etc.....have very small claims, which amount to a couple of million for being 'cheated' out of a place in the league, but neither resulted in a substantial impact. Burnley and Leicester however..........You could easily be looking at a couple of hundred million compensation and all the fun and games that come with that.

4 - This is for the 21-22 season. Your still not compliant with FFP today, so need to fix that pronto or you'll be proper hammered. As a result, there is an urgent need to sell players and reduce the wage bill - and forget about strengthening. I think this (and the 3rd point) are your main issues. The 10 pts won't mean a whole lot and is short term - a big compensation bill and a wage bill that is hugely out of kilter with your revenue are longer term problems that could bury you for a good long time.

Stick to rugby league mert.

 

[Moomin]

PSG among eight clubs hit with FFP sanctions as Barca, Chelsea and Man City avoid action due to Covid exception | Goal.com UK

UEFA's CFCB (Club Financial Control Body) have released their Financial Fair Play (FFP) overview for the 2021-22 season and eight teams have been fined for breaching the rules

www.goal.com

Arsenal on UEFA watchlist for potentially breaching FFP regulations

It is understood that 20 clubs across Europe have been identified for the year 2021-22 by UEFA, one of which is the Gunners who are currently top of the Premier League.

www.dailymail.co.uk

UEFA fines Man Utd, Barcelona for FFP breaches

Manchester United and Barcelona have been fined for breaches of UEFA's FFP regulations, the governing body announced Friday.

www.espn.co.uk

I’ll just leave these here, many more easily found on the web. The whole things a stitch up…

That's UEFA, nothing to do with the Premier League and we are safe from UEFA's reach as we don't play in Europe.

 

[Connor]

As a leeds fan, I think I have 4 takes on this.

1 - The 10 pts mean very little this year. There are 3 terrible teams in the league, you'll stay up with 30 points probably. Can't see the penalty resulting in relegation.

2 - You broke FFP. You did so knowingly and then tried to cover it up with dodgy accounting. The penalty is fair enough - You got caught and lied about it. Suck it up.

3 - Your big problem isnt the 10 pts, its Burnley and Leicester. Leeds, Southampton etc.....have very small claims, which amount to a couple of million for being 'cheated' out of a place in the league, but neither resulted in a substantial impact. Burnley and Leicester however..........You could easily be looking at a couple of hundred million compensation and all the fun and games that come with that.

4 - This is for the 21-22 season. Your still not compliant with FFP today, so need to fix that pronto or you'll be proper hammered. As a result, there is an urgent need to sell players and reduce the wage bill - and forget about strengthening. I think this (and the 3rd point) are your main issues. The 10 pts won't mean a whole lot and is short term - a big compensation bill and a wage bill that is hugely out of kilter with your revenue are longer term problems that could bury you for a good long time.

 

[AndyRJ]

They do say there was a sporting advantage.

It says there is an 'inferred' sporting advantage purely on the basis we spent/ lost too much money. It also states that it cannot be quantified. Big difference.

 

[Runub]

All the miscreants are coming out from under their stones today

 

[Moomin]

Jim with all due respect, and hopefully trying come across as civil, have you really read the report? Don’t believe what’s written by helmets like Matt Hughes.

They’ve basically done us by not taking into account our main sponsor being sanctioned because of a war (allegedly we should always take things like that into account), one of our players that couldn’t sell for obvious reasons, and for stadium loan interest which was allowed before we started building but suspiciously changed. We’ve worked with the Premier League who have moved the goalposts throughout.

They even don’t specifically say we had any sporting advantage. So a sporting sanction doesn’t fit the alleged breach.

You missed out the Richarlison excuse as well.

 

[PhilEFC]

They do say there was a sporting advantage.

They infer but can’t quantify it.

 

[ultra]

It says there is an 'inferred' sporting advantage purely on the basis we spent/ lost too much money. It also states that it cannot be quantified. Big difference.

It is inferred because it cannot be proven ie it is guesswork. Another one of many reasons why the decision is deeply flawed.

 

[LinekersLegs]

You'll get no arguments from me on that score. We were run terribly for years and nearly put out of existence because of it. We had two point deductions too - the second one was 15 pts. Starting a season in league 1 on -15 was a great laugh.

And since when did GOT become so toxic? A reasonable post about the real threat being the longer term risks of litigation from Burnley and Leicester doesn't seem to warrant mass abuse. Used to be a fairly reasonable place (by footie forum standards at least, which aren't all that high really) and now a pretty mild post seems to get koppite levels of delusion in response. Sad.

You tell us “the penalty is fair enough”, that we should “suck it up”, that we “could easily be looking at a couple of hundred million compensation” and “ Your still not compliant with FFP today, so need to fix that pronto or you'll be proper hammered. “ - none of which you provided any evidence for and didn’t expect any pushback?!

Just taking the first bit “the penalty is fair enough” - how is getting 10 point docked for a single breach of the rules justified versus the 9 that Portsmouth got for years of mismanagement and going into administration?

And if you genuinely believe we face a couple of hundred million in compensation how is effectively forcing us into administration a sensible result of laws that were ostensibly brought in to avoid that very fate?

 

[PhilEFC]

You missed out the Richarlison excuse as well.

No I didn’t add that because that was bollocks.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Are we the baddies?