Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
Because we spent too much money in an attempt to get some success.. Leciester managed to win the league and now where are they?
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6 + 2 Point Deductions
- Thread starter GrandOldTeam
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HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £30m
Yup. Won’t happen, but I wish the club was in a position to get ahead of these things and immediately make a statement saying, “Due to a focus on costs, careful recruitment and significant player sales, the club’s result for the 22/23 season ensure comfortable compliance with all regulations, applying all accounting methodology as laid out bump the recent independent commission findings. Since said accounts are not yet audited and submitted, the club can provide no further information in response to media questioning. The club looks forward to seeing media and PL scrutiny upon clubs who have not applied similar measures in the last financial year. Do one.”
Would be so nice for once to not have to assume everything has been a mess but things are probably improving, only to find out the disaster was way bigger than anyone could have imagined.
JLW
Player Valuation: £60m
What will happen is they will try their upmost to uphold the 10 point deduction but once the appeal is over there will be a PSR reform, i guarantee it.
Just in time for the likes of City and Chelsea
Mr Popodopolous
Player Valuation: £750k
One more thing, the other poster is spot on about lazy or poor reporting abour FFP losses and the Covid adjustments in terms of merging 2 years...
Taken on face value to 2020 it's..
3 years to 2019-20, Loss Before Tax £255-256m.
In reality, owing to Covid there was no standalone test to 2020.
3 years to 2020-21, the often mentioned £372m.
In reality, owing to Covid it was around £255-256m. That is the aggregate and average of 2019-20 and 2020-21 into one.
3 years to 2021-22, yeah it's abour £304m.
In reality due to the aforementioned averaging it is £285-286m.
That's before tax, before Covid and regular adjustments but afree averaging.
To 2022-23, stand alone loss before tax who knows..£165m across 2020-21 and 2021-22, but in reality £174-175m plus whatever last season, minus any principle of reset for 2019-20 and 2020-21 average and 2021-22, if applicable.
The standalone is technically right from 3 years of losses but for the FFP Test a lot of the media have not factored in the averaging.
Taken on face value to 2020 it's..
3 years to 2019-20, Loss Before Tax £255-256m.
In reality, owing to Covid there was no standalone test to 2020.
3 years to 2020-21, the often mentioned £372m.
In reality, owing to Covid it was around £255-256m. That is the aggregate and average of 2019-20 and 2020-21 into one.
3 years to 2021-22, yeah it's abour £304m.
In reality due to the aforementioned averaging it is £285-286m.
That's before tax, before Covid and regular adjustments but afree averaging.
To 2022-23, stand alone loss before tax who knows..£165m across 2020-21 and 2021-22, but in reality £174-175m plus whatever last season, minus any principle of reset for 2019-20 and 2020-21 average and 2021-22, if applicable.
The standalone is technically right from 3 years of losses but for the FFP Test a lot of the media have not factored in the averaging.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £50m
Bobbles mate reckons we are ok in terms of that times article ie it's just stirring the pot and take no notice.
HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £30m
Ignoring all of the Niasse diving stories etc, this current situation is a stain on the PL and its desire to self regulate, even if they do punish us heavily. They had us in special measures (due to us coming forward, not their monitoring), supposedly authorising our expenditures and probably requesting more regular financial communications. All, they, say to protect fans from clubs going out of business through reckless spending. And yet with all of their help and guidance, we STILL broke the limits!
They couldn’t have blown up all of their own claims of being able to self regulate more spectacularly if they tried. All adds a healthy dose of spite to their behaviour in front of the commission. They now have to claim we misled and our mitigations were fanciful.
Mr Popodopolous
Player Valuation: £750k
The best proof of it would be to release your neat and compliant accounts to CH or on the website asap to show that lessons have been learned and that Everton are now compliant in all areas.
GoldenToffee
Player Valuation: £60m
I agree with you, but how could that happen and be deemed acceptable? You cannot make up a rule for one club then change the whole system to protect other clubs that have broken the rules more than the club you've already punished in an unprecedented way. I guess well they can, and will, but it's horrifying to think they'll do that.
PeregrineT
Player Valuation: £35m
Its an absolute nothing article, made up by the Times. Just click-baiting. Literally the entire article is based on one absurd line "There are fears that if the same calculation system is used, Everton could find themselves sailing close to the wind again."
What the hell does that even mean, and have they bothered to look at the accounts? Everton have been one of the lowest spending teams in the league for the past 4 years, and its obvious whoever wrote this doesnt care about integrity.
What the hell does that even mean, and have they bothered to look at the accounts? Everton have been one of the lowest spending teams in the league for the past 4 years, and its obvious whoever wrote this doesnt care about integrity.
Yeah does not count only thing they say is that one window years ago we spent alot of money. Is getting a joke now just getting targeted by the media nearly everyday now
I'm not sure it's us specifically they have a problem with,
It's just that they feel that they have to make an example of someone to show that they can enforce their own rules.
And there's no way they are going after one of the global brands. They showed their hand in the handling of the super league.
The big clubs are untouchable. Everton are about as big as it gets where you can actually enforce a punishment without huge pushback from sponsors and media partners.
FFP has been designed to push any club outside the elite to the pin of their collars to try and bridge the gap.
Newcastle found a way but perhaps not the most legitimate way.
So I don't think it's a vendetta against Everton per se but it is definitely a case of Everton being the easiest and highest profile target that they can actually take a swing at.
Martin Alvito
Player Valuation: £50m
Sure you can. It's called an ex post facto law. The United States Constitution, among others, prohibits them. We did it at Nuremberg anyway.
They're 100% legal in Britain, since Parliament can do as it pleases. The only thing stopping Parliament from passing them is public outcry. This situation is exactly identical, but most people don't understand justice any more, much less insist on its practice. They don't like us, and that's good enough for them.
So a current 10 point deduction, maybe another 10 points in the pipeline for a second misdemeanour and a potential 9 points for administration. If your going to go down, go down in style
Honestly part of me wants this to happen and then we just cause absolute pandemonium for the rest of the season, keep scoring deliberate own goals, get games abandoned, make a full on show of the league in every televised game.
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
No doubt they'll bring in a rule that if you are deducted points 3 times in a season you get a 10 point deduction.So a current 10 point deduction, maybe another 10 points in the pipeline for a second misdemeanour and a potential 9 points for administration. If your going to go down, go down in style