6 + 2 Point Deductions

[formerly manx toffee]

Goodison will be a absolute bear pit for the next few teams going there

 

[Nymzee]

Because most seasons it ends up being low to mid 30s is the line for staying up/going down. Now we might get a season where 3 teams are completely rubbish and not one of them gets near that but equally it’s not impossible for one team to get a new manager or new signing in January and get that sort of points total. So for us to get to a tally that sees us up comfortably without it going to the last day again we’ve got to now get a lot of results. We’re going to be in this for a while now which is just so annoying as we’d started to pull out of it for the first time in years.

Well 34pts last season kept you up and 35 the season before. The bottom teams in this years league are the worst we've had in a long, long time.

38 was complete pie in the sky.

 

[jazzy]

Which is strange in itself that they intervened at that stage. They don't tend to suspend players after an arrest due to the presumption of innocence.

That we are aware of.

Who knows what they did via a vis Greenwood for example.

 

[DanB90]

If we get the deduction overturned at appeal we should sue the PL for reputational damages.

It won’t be overturned.
It might (MIGHT) get reduced, but we’ve admitted our breaches of the rules by all accounts.

We don’t seem to be appealing the decision, but the harshness of the punishment.

 

[Marius57]

If only we had held on vs Brighton. Would be out of the relegation zone now.

 

[Neiler]

 

[MikeH72]

And they'll remain there the rest of the season obviously.

How do you know they won’t? What if they finish in the top 4 and a 10 point deduction would put them about 10th? How can you say it hasn’t affected them?

 

[jazzy]

Unfortunately that is clearly not the way it is being perceived by those in charge. Stitched up or not, that is the narrative in play and us playing the victim won't change that.

The commission judgment says we got no sporting advantage

 

[steele]

What about Manch C case, that has a list of 100+ breaches?

 

[Wat Tyler]

I disagree - its a breach of PSR by less than £20 million, and has attracted almost the upper end of the scale of points deduction (10 out of a maximum 12) despite extensive cooperation and them looking over the books.

The verdict might not be overturned but the deduction could (should) be reduced, simply because it (if left in place) leaves clubs thinking of breaching PSR a precedent that you may as well absolutely cane it and obstruct the process because you'll only get an extra two points if they find you guilty.

The fact they didn’t accept the Ukraine war affected us was crazy, surely that will be taken into account on appeal.

The ten points is so arbitrary.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

We'd be on one point now if not for Idrissa Gana Gueye

 

[BainesontoastNEW]

What about Manch C case, that has a list of 100+ breaches?

We're meant to turn a blind eye to those, pal.

 

[Terrarian]

Let’s stop England playing at our ground and pull out of its use for tournaments. Then hire it out to Taylor Swift for more money.

Screw them

All that does is take away revenue. It's UEFA not the PL.

 

[marsh]

The scab 6 got what a 20k fine. Rats.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Well 34pts last season kept you up and 35 the season before. The bottom teams in this years league are the worst we've had in a long, long time.

38 was complete pie in the sky.

I’m not saying it’s 38 points or stay up, I’m saying it’s that to be comfortable at any point before the last few games. If we get 34 points we’re going to be in a relegation battle all season regardless of how rubbish the other three are.

So we’re looking at a low 40 points season just to survive and a mid to high 40s to survive without another horrendous run in experience.