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I didn’t say it should be 18.

Just that why do they not match? Your statement supports that as well!

What age did you have your first drink and sexual encounter?

I don't see any need to criminalise teenagers.

Calls to increase the age of consent seems like a disproportionate response to the behaviour of a celebrity.

Apart from the US I don't know of other countries with 18 age of consent (in some states). Perhaps look at the laws across Europe and you'll see we are broadly in line with the continent if not higher.
 
What age did you have your first drink and sexual encounter?

I don't see any need to criminalise teenagers.

Calls to increase the age of consent seems like a disproportionate response to the behaviour of a celebrity.

Apart from the US I don't know of other countries with 18 age of consent (in some states). Perhaps look at the laws across Europe and you'll see we are broadly in line with the continent if not higher.
My point is the age of consent being different for different things. As you said. Can go to war at 16…. But can’t drive a car? Can have sex at 16 but can’t watch porn?

I am not calling to increase. Just merely saying how odd it can be.
 
Ive never actually known someone personally who did this, but have heard of it being a thing.

On a couple of occasions, have had a mate tell me about someone they knew who would regularly whip it out when in company.

Always thought it was oddball behaviour to be honest.
If I did this nowadays, people would just laugh
 
My point is the age of consent being different for different things. As you said. Can go to war at 16…. But can’t drive a car? Can have sex at 16 but can’t watch porn?

I am not calling to increase. Just merely saying how odd it can be.

Oh I agree, very odd.

I'm always wary of increasing restrictions and criminalisation in society, especially as when it comes to age restrictions as they are largely ignored by individuals.

Personally I was smoking, drinking and having sex before 16 although only because I made it my mission to do so and would have shagged a barber's floor given the opportunity.

The age limits meant nothing to me or anyone I knew, it just made it more difficult to purchase ale/cigs legally and we had to get them in other ways which is what criminalisation always does. See the drug trade for example also off topic admittedly.
 
If you cared/tried to read it, you would see that there is no pressure to stop him discussing anything.
You clearly didn't read it yourself, or didn't understand what it said.

By putting pressure on removing Brand's ability to make money from his work, he will have less incentive to do that work.

Ergo...they are trying to stop him doing his work.

There is pressure to stop someone accused of serious sexual offenses from profiting from those serious sexual offenses.
How is his discussing government corruption related to accusations of sexual deviancy from two decades prior?

How is he profiting from alleged sexual offences when his content has nothing to do with said alleged offences?

You claim I didn't read anything, but you certainly didn't. As what I've just described is also Rumble's argument (linked in my post you quoted).


Remember Assange and his alleged crimes coming off the back of his own brand of anti-establishmentarianism?


Like Assange, people here are letting their personal dislike of a celebrity figure cloud their judgement...or rather, as soon as that figure made a perceived ideological shift from Left-to-Right he's suddenly fair game for the old sexual-deviancy-accusations trick.

And everyone thinks it's perfectly normal how all the mainstream media synchronise in tandem to the story. Surely just a coincidence that Brand's very successful content of the last few years has been anti-authoritarian, during a pandemic in which authorities convinced most of the population to get jabbed with a very profitable product.

See also the timing of the Assange accusations (right after releasing a video of militaric mass murder).


There's no suppression of "free" speech if that's what you're worried about.
Ignorance is strength.

Same with YouTube’s demonetising, they haven’t stopped him posting, just stopped him earning from his posts.
That's the same thing.

I take away your payslip, will you still go to work regardless?

Funny how some people want to ignore the actual story to push their own angle.
Projection.
 


That's the same thing.

Nope. The ability of someone to post their views, is a different thing than being paid for it. As demonstrated by the fact that YouTube demonetised Brand (as this is an advertising led decision), as opposed to striking or banning his account (which is a TOS decision). They are quite literally different things.

Projection.

This is basically the online version of saying “Nah-uh. You are”
 
In normal times, that Tory letter to Rumble would be profoundly controversial. Bigger than Profumo or Watergate.

Instead, the bigger controversy is a bohemian lad being a bit liberal with his willy.


Hence why they call it Clownworld.

I don't know if you have realised this, but sending a letter to a social media firm asking them to demonetize a self-help guru is really nowhere near the level of the Defence Minister sharing a lover with the Soviet Military Attache, or the President having his political enemies burgled needlessly.

If you want a parallel from history, why not look at how the Chief Constable of Peterborough wrote to Sir Theobald Matthew (then DPP) asking whether Lady Chatterley's Lover was obscene enough to meet the standard set by Roy Jenkins' Obscene Publications Act.
 

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