2024/25 Abdoulaye Doucoure

[Drico]

A horse is a horse, of course, of course...

 

[Rodebaard]

The Doucoure Paradox.

More like a Faustian bargain. "You will remain in the Premiership, but you have to have Doucoure as a playmaker". "Ebening Jim."

 

[bluestevon]

….more points gained with him in the team. Crazy.

Simple really Eggs.

Dyches system does not know how to utilise a playmaker/no 10, it's clear we do absolutely no training on offensive dice shape and movement, no runners, nobody creating space.

So we will get more points having a yarddog who runs around in that role, because, in Dyches system that's what's required from the number 10.

Same as Mykolenko and Young as Fullbacks are not expected to provide crosses or assists or go overlap to create space for the wingers inside.

The reason we score so few is we have an entire team setup where not one players prone responsibility is to either create or score, it's all about doing the defensive part - maintaining defensive shape, putting themselves about etc

Zero focus on creating or scoring besides as an afterthought.

 

[Neiler]

Simple really Eggs.

Dyches system does not know how to utilise a playmaker/no 10, it's clear we do absolutely no training on offensive dice shape and movement, no runners, nobody creating space.

So we will get more points having a yarddog who runs around in that role, because, in Dyches system that's what's required from the number 10.

Same as Mykolenko and Young as Fullbacks are not expected to provide crosses or assists or go overlap to create space for the wingers inside.

The reason we score so few is we have an entire team setup where not one players prone responsibility is to either create or score, it's all about doing the defensive part - maintaining defensive shape, putting themselves about etc

Zero focus on creating or scoring besides as an afterthought.

We look way better and effective when he's in that hybrid role mate, its not just the points without him thing.

 

[Sweeneytoad]

He has the pace in midfield of a HGV in reverse.

 

[bluestevon]

We look way better and effective when he's in that hybrid role mate, its not just the points without him thing.

.we can do yes, but at the expense if making eyes bleed, he's an absolutely atrocious player - in the number ten role it sums up perfectly why Dyche sides never average much over 40 a season.

Moyes used Fellaini in a similar way at times, it was god awful then too to watch but at least sideshow bob had some technical ability

 

[Neiler]

.we can do yes, but at the expense if making eyes bleed, he's an absolutely atrocious player - in the number ten role it sums up perfectly why Dyche sides never average much over 40 a season.

Moyes used Fellaini in a similar way at times, it was god awful then too to watch but at least sideshow bob had some technical ability

I think he gets unfair criticism he annoys people, because he doesn't fit one pidgin hole or doesnt follow the perceived logic or whey people want from a 10 stylistically.

We totally bossed the midfield last night with him making it a three and also no one looked isolated in forward positions last night, that's what he enables. I think singling out one mis placed pass or the like is doing him a massive disservice, he enables so much in the system.

I love Illy but he was really ineffectual last night, trying to dribble and do step overs.

I find it hard to come up with a more influential player for us - in this period were we have been on our backsides over the past four years.

Id be surprised if he changes now as regards to the hybrid 10.

I think frankly, we have proved with our start to the season we aren't good enough to go without him in the hybrid 10 role.

 

[ToffeeScot]

He has to play in that hybrid role in a Dyche side and nowhere else. With Dyche it's the only way we will pick up wins.

 

[No Alla Violenza]

I think he gets unfair criticism he annoys people, because he doesn't fit one pidgin hole or doesnt follow the perceived logic or whey people want from a 10 stylistically.

We totally bossed the midfield last night with him making it a three and also no one looked isolated in forward positions last night, that's what he enables. I think singling out one mis placed pass or the like is doing him a massive disservice, he enables so much in the system.

I love Illy but he was really ineffectual last night, trying to dribble and do step overs.

I find it hard to come up with a more influential player for us - in this period were we have been on our backsides over the past four years.

Id be surprised if he changes now as regards to the hybrid 10.

I think frankly, we have proved with our start to the season we aren't good enough to go without him in the hybrid 10 role.

I agree

Compare his pressing and energy in there last night to McNeil playing in that position in the past couple of games

 

[DualityNSNO]

We look way better and effective when he's in that hybrid role mate, its not just the points without him thing.

Better

I think he gets unfair criticism he annoys people, because he doesn't fit one pidgin hole or doesnt follow the perceived logic or whey people want from a 10 stylistically.

We totally bossed the midfield last night with him making it a three and also no one looked isolated in forward positions last night, that's what he enables. I think singling out one mis placed pass or the like is doing him a massive disservice, he enables so much in the system.

I love Illy but he was really ineffectual last night, trying to dribble and do step overs.

I find it hard to come up with a more influential player for us - in this period were we have been on our backsides over the past four years.

Id be surprised if he changes now as regards to the hybrid 10.

I think frankly, we have proved with our start to the season we aren't good enough to go without him in the hybrid 10 role.

He gets absolutely fair criticism because he offers athleticism and no football ability. It's not about "stylistic" ideologies, it's about a footballer controlling a ball more than once a month, or finding a pass, or doing anything remotely football-like more often (like during the course of a game, not the course of a month).

We "bossed" the midfield because Mangala moved upwards and he could actually play a pass - Doucoure played 3 yard passes to either him or Ndiaye and looked on, just standing there, when he didn't have a ball to chase. The same effect can be enabled by having someone who can also pass and actually play with the ball, not ONLY without it. He also misplaced way more than 1 pass hahah

Absolutely criminal to even involve him as some important piece of a nonsensical puzzle - Dyche has to fit him anywhere, hence him playing in central midfield earlier and us being ran over 90% of the time as he 1) chases shadows leaving half the midfield open or 2) being unable to pass adequately.

This is not a hybrid 10, this is a second striker that drops deep, but can't do anything except run.

He's a fantastic athlete but an absolute carthorse of a footballer. Feet like 50p coins.

 

[trueblue84]

Has the pope called a Ramadan yet? Worried it will affect him in a critical period of the season.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Saudi in Jan.

 

[Neiler]

I agree

Compare his pressing and energy in there last night to McNeil playing in that position in the past couple of games

Agreed mate, its what he brings and what he enables from others, actually thought McNeill looked as if not more dangerous last night then previous games.

 

[bluestevon]

I think he gets unfair criticism he annoys people, because he doesn't fit one pidgin hole or doesnt follow the perceived logic or whey people want from a 10 stylistically.

We totally bossed the midfield last night with him making it a three and also no one looked isolated in forward positions last night, that's what he enables. I think singling out one mis placed pass or the like is doing him a massive disservice, he enables so much in the system.

I love Illy but he was really ineffectual last night, trying to dribble and do step overs.

I find it hard to come up with a more influential player for us - in this period were we have been on our backsides over the past four years.

Id be surprised if he changes now as regards to the hybrid 10.

I think frankly, we have proved with our start to the season we aren't good enough to go without him in the hybrid 10 role.

Didn't he play the first four games of the season in that exact role?

I think we will change mate honestly, the moment TFG get the go ahead then can see Dyche being gone the same day and any progressive manager who actually wants to even attempt to play football will have Doucoure nowhere near the starting 11.

We look more effective with him on the side under Dyche purely because we make zero attempt to actually try to play or to keep possession.

 

[bluestevon]

Saudi in Jan.

Here's hoping so