Accepting where we are

[Khalekan]

Exactly. The whole point of Everton Football Club is to be the best. The club was born and built upon being the best, and doing it with style and class. Our fathers and grandfathers never settled for second best, and here we are talking about settling for also-rans.

If this is how Evertonians are thinking they we may as well not exist at all. To those who are seriously adopting this attitude; all I can say is GTFO.

Our recent history hasn't lived up to expectations; fair enough. Our recent history doesn't define who we are.

NIL SATIS is not just a fancy marketing logo. It is this club. Evertonians need to be reminded, and we need to DEMAND it.

Yay.. .

 

[TonyS]

Exactly. The whole point of Everton Football Club is to be the best. The club was born and built upon being the best, and doing it with style and class. Our fathers and grandfathers never settled for second best, and here we are talking about settling for also-rans.

If this is how Evertonians are thinking they we may as well not exist at all. To those who are seriously adopting this attitude; all I can say is GTFO.

Our recent history hasn't lived up to expectations; fair enough. Our recent history doesn't define who we are.

NIL SATIS is not just a fancy marketing logo. It is this club. Evertonians need to be reminded, and we need to DEMAND it.

mate we've been gash for three decades

 

[CrustySack]

When did we last doing anything with class and style mate?

Don't assume that I am accepting that we are destined to be nothing but also rans for the rest of eternity, I am just accepting of the position we're now in and likely to be for the next few seasons.

It certainly doesn't mean I need to "GTFO" or am any less an Evertonian than you are. I'm fine with people remaining positive and clinging to former glories as a means of getting through what is a pretty embarrassing period in the club's history, but I'm taking the view that we are where we are and I'm not going to delude myself thinking we can currently sign the best players and be the best team in the league, we're light years away from that.

Nah Bungs.

We accept mediocrity now, then what next? Accept relegation battles every week? It is a dangerous game. It is okay understanding where we are, but accepting it is just NO. Those who we call custodians must understand that we demand the best. Players who sign for the club and pull on that royal blue jersey must have no doubt that we demand the best. Even if we are not in a position at the time to get the best, we must keep on demanding it.

I'm shocked by some of the fans in this thread who appear more than ready to meekly lie down.

 

[Bungle]

Nah Bungs.

I'm shocked by some of the fans in this thread who appear more than ready to meekly lie down.

I have this set as one of the things I'm looking for in a woman on my plenty of fish profile.

 

[CrustySack]

I have this set as one of the things I'm looking for in a woman on my plenty of fish profile.

Trust you to come out with that lollollol

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Nah Bungs.

We accept mediocrity now, then what next? Accept relegation battles every week? It is a dangerous game. It is okay understanding where we are, but accepting it is just NO. Those who we call custodians must understand that we demand the best. Players who sign for the club and pull on that royal blue jersey must have no doubt that we demand the best. Even if we are not in a position at the time to get the best, we must keep on demanding it.

I'm shocked by some of the fans in this thread who appear more than ready to meekly lie down.

Exactly.If were broken to the point, where we think that Everton, will no longer win league titles and cups, then we may as well shut down the entire operation imo.When we won our last league title, we were ahead of both Manchester United and Arsenal in the role of honour.Recent successes notwithstanding, but we are historically a much bigger and more illustrious club than both Manchester City and Chelsea as well.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

mate we've been gash for three decades

Well we haven't fallen away in the manner that Leeds Sheffield Wednesday and Nottingham Forest did.We have been trying to cling on to the elite, and we did see a few decent sides, in the last 30 years.The 1995 FA Cup team, the class of seasons 2007/2008 and 2008/2009 under David Moyes, were unlucky not to win an FA Cup and european trophy.Then we had that 72 point season under Martinez.So while the last 30 years, have been anything but ideal.We have seen a few decent sides, and at least we didn't fall off the face of the earth completely imo.

 

[Death]

We'll wait till Burnely are out of sight then we will become unstoppable.

 

[joe5494]

Maybe I’m a pessimist, but as a blue who has never seen everton win a trophy, I’m just accepting that I maybe never will. Please somebody, give me some optimism that I will!

 

[Blue Pride of Brum]

To credit your lads back in the day they never took a backwards step! Shame your young lads haven’t learned from them by the reading of some of these posts on here!

 

[Yarrgh]

Maybe I’m a pessimist, but as a blue who has never seen everton win a trophy, I’m just accepting that I maybe never will. Please somebody, give me some optimism that I will!

Joe one day you will know how it feels to walk to Goodison with the early summer sun shining and the hum of excitement and expectation hitting you before you see the ground in a title year. You'll know that electricity of the unknown as the lads come out on a finals night in Europe when they are simply irresistible.

Just get through this travesty of a manager's tenure and enjoy the journey back to the top. Go watch the 80s team. A team all playing to their best with everyone behind them. It's more than possible.

Never accept this.

 

[LongtimeEvertonfan]

I do - I started supporting Everton in the 90s so I'm used to us being crap - but I don't get how me feeling like this makes Everton remain crap. Some fans genuinely seem to think that Everton's continued rubbishness is the fault of fans like me. How is me accepting mediocrity going to make a difference? None of the squad are going to come on here and think, "Well, we were going to waste Spurs but GoodisonOpheliac says she has low expectations for the club so sod it, let's roll over and allow Harry Kane to dry bum us instead."

Hey mate it does make a difference. Yes you can't make much of a direct difference with who we buy, what manager we hire but Everton works like a big clock. You have the face of the clock, which is the matches we play. Behind the clock sits lots of cogs which make the clock run on time. Some of our cogs are who the manager is. That is a major one. What players we have-another big one. But there are smaller ones as well, like, the kit man, the canteen staff, the youth team, the scouting system. Some of these cogs are bigger than others and some are just small but they all need to be working for us to be successful. One of the main cogs is the fan base. How they are feeling, what they expect on match day, what they think of a new signing. It is very important.
One of the main reason Everton fans are so angry this season is because of the expectation that was put out at the start of the season. Not only has it not been met but it has been shocking. Wasting all that money and it has made the fan base furious. Each time another bad decision is made (like hiring Big Sam in my opinion) if gets worse. The fan base 'cog' is not running smoothly and because it is a major one if has a big effect. Pressure builds, the feeling around the club changes for the worse, players who normally don't mess up start making stupid passes. It has a knock on effect.
Think about this...If you child came up to you and said,"Dad I'm going to be a millionaire when I'm older!" Most people would say something negative-like in your dreams or good luck with that. Some may be supportive and say something like, you can do it. However, if a billionaire had a son and he came up to him and said, "Dad I want to be a millionaire!" He would probably get slapped or told to think bigger, at the very least he is going to get a good stern talking to.
Here is my point. EVERYONE at Everton needs to have a very high standard. We used to but it has gone. The collective thinking is important to the team, just as the collective thinking of a family is important. We need (as
much as we can) to all be singing from the same song sheet.
It's not your fault about feeling crap if you look at what you have gone through. It is the same with a lot of fans and you came onboard just after the 80's which means you missed some good years. You have now had years of dodgy decisions and some really bad match days. It's heart breaking and Year on Year, season season it gets to you. But try to believe we can turn this around because you are an important part of this club. One of the most important parts-You are part of the mighty Everton fan base and it is a vital part of our club. We need you to believe!

 

[LongtimeEvertonfan]

I have this set as one of the things I'm looking for in a woman on my plenty of fish profile.

Very funny reply here Bungle-class!

 

[Bungle]

Very funny reply here Bungle-class!

Tell us a bit about yourself mate, where are you from, what do you do for a living, that kind of thing.

It's good to have you posting mate, let's get to know each other a little.

 

[Furey1878]

Maybe I’m a pessimist, but as a blue who has never seen everton win a trophy, I’m just accepting that I maybe never will. Please somebody, give me some optimism that I will!

Our day in the sun will come, mate. And a most glorious day it will be.