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2017/18 Ademola Lookman

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radiostar said:
Going to the do him the world of good this loan.

Got to admit I was baffled at first. But when you think about it it's for the best. Allardyce wont do his game any favours. He will be back next season a far more experienced player and I think he could be one of the stars of the league.

Can't wait.
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I just worry he won't come back at all. Especially if Sam remains in charge.
 
Well, I question your notion that substitutes have been deemed not good enough. I also wonder why clubs would handicap
themselves by not having a regular match option for senior squad players who are not usually used in the first eleven
but will be required from time to time.

Maybe the U23 restrictions should be scrapped and the old reserves rules brought back. That would mean that all the players
would share game time around and clubs would surely benefit from that.

And pundits are always telling us that work in training is no substitute for match fitness, so I don't see how Tosun can gain
much from it if they are right.
ClausThomsen said:
You can only have a set number of over-age players in the U23's matchday squad so it's inevitable that you can't give all older players game time there. And why clog up a development team with players you've decided aren't good enough and who will probably just go through the motions there with no benefit and could conceivably cause unrest outside the first team squad?

It seems that the U23 team is perceived as a punishment unless you're there to get back up to speed after an injury. The entire point of Niasse's spell there was seemingly to humiliate him and force him out of the club. Him rising above such pettiness and working hard was very much the exception.

As for Tosun then it may be seen that concentrating on working with the 1st team and getting familiar there is of more benefit than expending energy and risking injury at a much lower level of football.
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radiostar said:
Going to the do him the world of good this loan.

Got to admit I was baffled at first. But when you think about it it's for the best. Allardyce wont do his game any favours. He will be back next season a far more experienced player and I think he could be one of the stars of the league.

Can't wait.
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Agree. Would love to see him with the odd cameo for us over the next few months but if we have a longer-term view, under a new manager, next season the idea of Walcott and Lookman on the wings is potentially very exciting. Hopefully Kieran Dowell can really breakthrough for us next season as well.
 
Toffee in Jandals said:
Agree. Would love to see him with the odd cameo for us over the next few months but if we have a longer-term view, under a new manager, next season the idea of Walcott and Lookman on the wings is potentially very exciting. Hopefully Kieran Dowell can really breakthrough for us next season as well.
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That would be great
I would not expect him back if Walsh and Allardyce are still here though
Might angle for a Chelsea or Tottenham move
 
Lookman is a boss loan for them and that kind of transfer is exactly what we're missing.

We should be out there loaning some top young players from the best sides to fill the gaps in our squad.
 
Deulofeumygod said:
Watching his cameo now. Came on for last ten. Immediately got the ball in the middle and turned and ran and then had another run outside the area into the area and played a lovely pass. Magic in his boots and exactly what we need. A player who runs with the ball and takes risks.

Still so annoyed by this loan.
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Praying that whoever our next manager is, sees this kid and Vlasic as key members of our future. Both of them have got something a bit good about them.
 

Jeff Jones said:
Well, I question your notion that substitutes have been deemed not good enough. I also wonder why clubs would handicap
themselves by not having a regular match option for senior squad players who are not usually used in the first eleven
but will be required from time to time.

Maybe the U23 restrictions should be scrapped and the old reserves rules brought back. That would mean that all the players
would share game time around and clubs would surely benefit from that.

And pundits are always telling us that work in training is no substitute for match fitness, so I don't see how Tosun can gain
much from it if they are right.
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Not all substitutes but there are obviously players on any teams bench who are considered surplus to requirements. And the Spurs FA Cup match against Newport probably saw them delving a little deeper into their squad and beyond their regular bench than they would a regular Premier League game.

If the current U23 system has been voted in then that tells us that the majority of managers and players are in agreement that beyond getting a bit of gametime as rehabilitation after injury reserve football is not that valuable for senior pro's.

Match fitness is possibly one of those misnomers where getting up to speed with 1st team football specifically is what is actually required rather than just playing fooball. Every player seems to be in agreement that it's a very different beast to the reserves/U23's. Tosun is not necessarily unfit or out of condition. He (apparently) just needs to get used to the PL and the U23's doesn't provide that experience.
 
carolinablue232 said:
Think he’ll get some league starts when the Europa matches for them pick up again. He’s perfect for rotation with their current wide players.

They’ll need fresh players to try and deal with Napoli
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Thats the hope, that he at least gets a full start every 1/2 to 2 weeks due to rotation needs.
 
If liepzig wants a young player from you, you must immediately know that this player is worth something. :D
I was excited to see lookman and cenk side-by-side when the transfer rumours has been revealed of him.
 
am i correct in thinking he's not eligible for their europa league fixtures against Napoli due to having already played in the competition for us ?
 

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