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All Aboard the Sizeable Samuel Gravy Train!

Will Sizeable Samuel keep West Brom up this year?

  • He's Sam. Of course they will stay up

  • He has bitten off more than he can chew

  • Gravy! Gravy! Gravy! Gravy! Gravy! Gravy! Gravy! Gravy!

  • I hope the Fat Blert goes down faster than yer Ma on my Birthday

  • Who cares about West Brom anyway?

  • Give him a wafer thin mint, he's done.

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TheBigIguana said:
There is a guy named Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

And Vlasic and Lookman would have been but a certain Sam Allardyce screwed that up.
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Unsworth picked out DCL.

Lookman was unhappy before Sam because Koeman wasn't starting him either.

Vlasic also didn't look up to much here and even Niasse was a player in Russia so there's no guarantees he would have done anything here.
 
You can and should hate Allardyce particularly as an English fan because of how poisoned the league, media and briefly the national team for so long. You can’t say he did more damage to Everton Footbal club than Koeman who’s after effects are still being felt however because it’s just not true.
 

KaiserEFC said:
You can and should hate Allardyce particularly as an English fan because of how poisoned the league, media and briefly the national team for so long. You can’t say he did more damage to Everton Footbal club than Koeman who’s after effects are still being felt however because it’s just not true.
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It's also false to say we aren't feeling Sam's after effects though.
 
TheBigIguana said:
I find the Tosun signing to be worse at this point than anything Koeman did.

And no, Lookman wanted to leave after Sam told him to go on loan since he wouldn't play here and realized that other clubs aren't as shoddily run as ours.

I just think if one manager brings in high potential players and the next guy just shoves them away that's a point really strongly against the second guy.

Sam did nothing but dig the hole deeper. That isn't on Koeman even if he left it pretty deep. My biggest memory of the whole situation is that when Sam was the manager I'd actively search for things to do instead of watching us play. It was unbearable.
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Bolasie and Siggy easily trump Tosun and Walcott in the waste of money leagues.

I hated watching the footy too but he was getting more out of that squad Koeman had built than Koeman was. He hardly digged anything deeper and put us back up the league despite the eye wrenching footy we played.

Koeman was an utter joke who couldn't organize the squad he spent 10ps of millions putting together.
 

I really can't hate Scam. He came in and did what he was hired to do - short term fix and steadying of the ship. His signings weren't amazing for the long term (putting it mildly) but they did contribute that season by and large.

The situation we find ourselves in, whilst looking better than for some time, is a legacy of poor decisions at board level compounded by the actions of the results of those poor appointments. Walsh, Komean, Allardyce (or the need for his style of short term fix appointment), and then Silva...

Scam was a symptom, not the disease. Kinda.
 
TheBigIguana said:
I mean he asked for the transfer after Sam told him to get lost. I do know that for a fact.

I guess yeah, maybe he had already decided but I can't be sure.
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He was being linked with loan moves to Derby the summer before Sam came in mate. Either he asked for a move then or the club thought it was the best thing for his development but Sam wasn't involved then.

www.thesportsman.com

Everton's Ademola Lookman Could Be The Perfect Replacement For Tom Ince At Derby

While Derby County's summer transfer business has so far impressed - Gary Rowett has completed deals for Andre Wisdom, Curtis Davies, and Tom Huddlestone -…
www.thesportsman.com www.thesportsman.com
 
Efcjake said:
He was being linked with loan moves to Derby the summer before Sam came in mate. Either he asked for a move then or the club thought it was the best thing for his development but Sam wasn't involved then.

www.thesportsman.com

Everton's Ademola Lookman Could Be The Perfect Replacement For Tom Ince At Derby

While Derby County's summer transfer business has so far impressed - Gary Rowett has completed deals for Andre Wisdom, Curtis Davies, and Tom Huddlestone -…
www.thesportsman.com www.thesportsman.com
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I'm not going to use "the sportsman" as proof of anything.

But even if that is a real thing I don't think a player at 19 wanting a loan move is a sign that he's never interested in playing for the parent club 6 months after signing with them. The beginning of the end with Lookman and Vlasic was Sam telling them both to do one in January of 2018 and in Lookman's case his loan to RBL being massively successful. Why would he come back to our crap show?
 
TheBigIguana said:
I'm not going to use "the sportsman" as proof of anything.

But even if that is a real thing I don't think a player at 19 wanting a loan move is a sign that he's never interested in playing for the parent club 6 months after signing with them. The beginning of the end with Lookman and Vlasic was Sam telling them both to do one in January of 2018 and in Lookman's case his loan to RBL being massively successful. Why would he come back to our crap show?
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Its one of many links. Google lookman derby loan 2017.
 

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