Transfer Rumour Amir Richardson

[Toffeeslam]

Watching Morocco they have got some good players, that lad Rahimi up front looks decent and is the tournament top scorer.

The winger looks alright too

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

But why is it madness for us to not be matching it? He’s been linked to half a dozen other clubs, is it madness that no one else is matching or exceeding it? Or does the fact no one is doing so not indicate the level of the player?

Who knows? Could be because the other clubs are better than us, with much better sides and stronger in that area of the park, so may not wish to take the plunge at the moment. The player and his entourage may want guarantees of more gametime, for all we know. Spurs might not give him much of that.

We NEED a player in that position. We NEED to start turning profits on our players more frequently. We NEED to find a cheap option and we NEED one that will accept low down-payments. Plus, in my opinion, we NEED to avoid signing washed up, poor PL players on big wages that contribute very little and should sign plenty of younger players to assist with point 2 above.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Why would we agree to a fixed purchase option for a player whose almost 30 by that time and on 150k pw

£180k apparently.

 

[Raino85]

Not if it's Kalvin Phillips, or the man you mentioned above - Ashley Young. He has been a total liability in the majority of games.

A poor player is a poor player, regardless of PL experience. We have too many players who have a tonne of PL experience but are terrible. If you sign young players with a high ceiling, with no PL experience, you likely make some secemt money. Look at Moise Kean, Henry Onyekuru, Vlasic, Lookman, Niels Nkounkou etc. etc. No PL experience, didn't do well for us, or play at all yet we made profits on all of them.

I think that has been slightly over egged.
I'd prefer other players for sure. But there's a reason he got selected so much last season.

Look at JP Gbamin, Andre Gomes, Cenk Tosun, Allan, Yerry Mina, Davy Klaassen, Oumar Niasse. £155m spent and about £10m recouped

 

[blueblue]

The PL is littered with players who have come in to the league highly rated and just dont cut the mustard and eventually go back under the rock they came from while someone like Idrissa Gueye or Ashley Young have been playing in this league for a decade. Pl experience does & should count for something in recruitment.

Like everything there is a bit of give and take with this, but if we have so far brought in 3 players this summer with 0 PL and one in Iroegbunam with barely any. Would it not make sense to be looking at some experience in the PL?

We have brought in four young players , I don't think they have played 10 Premiership games between them.

A couple of loan signing who know the premiership would reduce the pressure on these young lads to immediately come into the team and do well.

I think signing young players on permanent deals and experienced older players on loan is a very sensible strategy.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

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A lit if the French teams are really bad up financially due to what happened to their league in terms of revenue mate.

Literal fire sales

I get why they need to sell but I don’t know why when lots of teams appear to have been interested they’ve taken a low offer without stoking a bidding war. But maybe they’ve tried to do just that and that’s the price anyone’s willing to pay. In which case (which in a roundabout way was my point)…. maybe he’s just not that great.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

I think that has been slightly over egged.
I'd prefer other players for sure. But there's a reason he got selected so much last season.

Look at JP Gbamin, Andre Gomes, Cenk Tosun, Allan, Yerry Mina, Davy Klaassen, Oumar Niasse. £155m spent and about £10m recouped

Bad scouting. Plus, they're all older than the bracket I'm talking about.

Ashley Young was really poor. Even in the majority of his better games, he dropped a few clangers and got away with it. He was selected constantly because of who our manager is.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

We have brought in four young players , I don't think they have played 10 Premiership games between them.

A couple of loan signing who know the premiership would reduce the pressure on these young lads to immediately come into the team and do well.

I think signing young players on permanent deals and experienced older players on loan is a very sensible strategy.

But the loan fees in question are not free ir cheap. Phillips' loan fee at West Ham for 6 months was nearly £10m and they had to cover 100% of his £180k wages. It's scandalous. And supposedly, City want similar this time. That's almost more than signing Richardson.

We absolutely need to avoid deals like this.

 

[bluestevon]

We could still match Fiorentina's offer

€10m plus 10% sell on seems a good deal for a youngster who has played a good deal of football but still under 21.

He's 22

 

[bluestevon]

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I get why they need to sell but I don’t know why when lots of teams appear to have been interested they’ve taken a low offer without stoking a bidding war. But maybe they’ve tried to do just that and that’s the price anyone’s willing to pay. In which case (which in a roundabout way was my point)…. maybe he’s just not that great.

Or maybe teams know they are screwed financially so decided why drive the price up

 

[bluestevon]

But the loan fees in question are not free ir cheap. Phillips' loan fee at West Ham for 6 months was nearly £10m and they had to cover 100% of his £180k wages. It's scandalous. And supposedly, City want similar this time. That's almost more than signing Richardson.

We absolutely need to avoid deals like this.

Philips loan fee was 3.5m not nearly 10m mate.

 

[MichaelEFC96]

Why would we agree to a fixed purchase option for a player whose almost 30 by that time and on 150k pw

Not saying we would but City are desperate to get rid. We have a fixed purchase option with Napoli for Lindstrom

He would certainly have to drastically reduce his wages if he's ending up anywhere permanently

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Philips loan fee was 3.5m not nearly 10m mate.

Not what was reported mate.

Point still remains - far too much money for a crap player.

 

[catcherintherye]

But the loan fees in question are not free ir cheap. Phillips' loan fee at West Ham for 6 months was nearly £10m and they had to cover 100% of his £180k wages. It's scandalous. And supposedly, City want similar this time. That's almost more than signing Richardson.

We absolutely need to avoid deals like this.

The fee was closer to 3m and look his stock has fallen a lot since then, and frankly we will not be paying anything like that anyway.

I suspect we say to City what we will pay in wages, with maybe a couple of million loan fee. Id imagine 80k p/w. They don't have many options.

 

[Raino85]

Bad scouting. Plus, they're all older than the bracket I'm talking about.

Ashley Young was really poor. Even in the majority of his better games, he dropped a few clangers and got away with it. He was selected constantly because of who our manager is.

So your saying bad scouting can only emerge on players who are older? Bad scouting is the easiest cop out ever, as the same scouts also selected the players you mentioned previously we made minute profits on. FWIW Yerry Mina was 23 when he signed for us, Andre Gomes 25, Gbamin 23, Tosun 26, Klaasen 23, Niasse 26.
Some great scouting on 29 year old James Tarkowski recently! Who is old and has PL experience

He was selected constantly because he was our first backup at left back and was seen as a better option to Patterson & on par with Coleman. I cant really to be honest argue against that? Can you?