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And Yet... Perspective

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The binman chronicles said:
Kind of plainly obvious we wouldn't do well with the rest of our homes games. The good news we have to hold on to is the fact with fans in the stadium this wouldn't happen. Question is will our away form be anywhere close next season.
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I called this yesterday to my Villa buddy. I said they'd win last night but we'd do them at Villa Park. Having second thoughts now after that showing.
 
Kever10 said:
Every game goes by, we have many of the following talking points.

"Pickford is a liability. Poor positioning, poor feet, too small, passing atrocious, arrogant and lacks concentration. Sell, if we can."

"Coleman is finished. Been a good servant, but he's not up to it any more. Needs replacing as a number 1 priority. Get [Insert name] in from [Insert League]."

"Keane/Mina/Holgate (delete as appropriate) is a liability, an accident waiting to happen. Need a proper Centre half who can play a high line. Sell."

"Gomes is a fraud. He needs binning. Does nothing and is an absolute bottle job. Sell."

"Sigurdsson is awful. Absolute ghost. He's had his 1 good game every 3 months has he? Bin."

"Davies is sh*te. Absolute myth. Worst player to ever wear the shirt. What is the point in him. More bothered about fashion than football. Bin"

"Delph... LOL"

"Gbam-injured"

"Iwobi is useless. Biggest waste of money we've ever spent. What does he do? What is his position? Sell."

"Berna... Nope."

"Richarlison does my head in. Not good enough. Sulks too much. First touch is terrible, shooting is worse. Attitude stinks. I'd sell for whatever we can get."

"DCL is not good enough. Only scores tap ins. 20 goals isn't that good when you think about it. He could've scored 60. We can do better. Sell."

"King. Who?"

And yet...

Ancelotti is still a failure for somehow dragging anything out of this absolute horror show of a squad. Especially that midfield.

We basically have Godfrey, Digne, Allan, Doucoure and James who are (somewhat) free from Criticism. All 5 are Ancelotti/Brands picks and 4 of them joined a week before the season started. Only Godfrey has been available for more than 75% of our games, and the rest have been missing at various overlapping points through this weird, bullsh*t season.

Has it been perfect ? Absolutely not. But we've had some good moments.

There is still an outside possibility of Europe, with a squad that I would genuinely struggle to compare favourably with any other team in the top 10.

Its a long term project, and it's gonna take time, but honestly, have a bit of pause when you hammer the manager for not being good enough, and have a bit of patience. Because as frustrating as it is when we blow opportunities the way we keep doing, it must be even more frustrating for the manager who is made to look a mug by them week in week out. And for the time being, there's not an awful lot he can do about it.

P. S. I am aware that a lot of those opinions, especially Pickford and the Ghost, are mine. I stand by them.
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Top 4 was up for grabs this year with this squad... and them and all of us know it...
 
ToffeeTim said:
This was a brilliant chance to do something and we've blown it. Next year is going to be much harder. Our players are constantly letting down the supporters and their manager.

People are allowed to be upset, that's football. Its not easy supporting Everton.
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Will it be much harder? If and I knows it’s a big if. 4 or 5 quality additions are brought in will make a world of difference. I’m not thinking let’s forget European football. And play one game a week and have the manager/coaching staff working with the players.

I really hope next season Carlo has a plan and sticks to it.
 
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Igrok said:
Top 4 was up for grabs this year with this squad... and them and all of us know it...
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Realistically top 4 was available due to the massive underperformance of several other clubs with much better squads, and 'despite' this squad rather than because of it.

Before the season started, I expected us to finish around where we are with this squad. Expectations have risen as the season has gone on as circumstances have arisen.

Next season I'd say phase 2 of squad overhaul will be complete, and that's when I expect more.
 
TheNinja said:
Realistically top 4 was available due to the massive underperformance of several other clubs with much better squads, and 'despite' this squad rather than because of it.

Before the season started, I expected us to finish around where we are with this squad. Expectations have risen as the season has gone on as circumstances have arisen.

Next season I'd say phase 2 of squad overhaul will be complete, and that's when I expect more.
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don’t talk sense mate!!!! ;)
 
Don Carlo2 said:
Feel like Europa would hinder progression in the league next year considering how badly injuries have affected us this year
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Really not arsed about Europe other than qualification being an attraction for the type of talented player who wants to fancy pants their way into it by transferring into that team, rather than help their current one earn it.

I get the interest in playing different teams etc. I just don't value the whole set up. A runners-up league and a runners-up to the runners-up league. Its just for TV. There's no gravitas any more, its rubbish.

I'd be interested if we got into the runners up league - but only as champions. That way it will have been deserved.
 
i can see why everton buddies are upset and they have as much right to post their thought on everton #1 website as any1 but when ur hostile to others and act like piss baby then u get treated as one. there was good different views debate after latest shitshow despite strong feelings thank u to those buddies for adult behavior.
 

We are nowhere near ready for Europe yet so I'm not too unhappy if we aren't in next year as it might mess up our league position next season. Especially if its Europa league or whatever it is called

The Premier League must be our number one priority and to be competitive in Europe and the Prem we're relying on a massive squad improvement in the summer which just isn't going to happen.

Very unlikely we'll be able to get rid of enough current players to get a lot more in. If we get anther 3 or 4 Carlo signings I'll be pleased and we all know the areas that need strengthening.

Lets just keep on building and see where we are in 2 or 3 years. Hopefully then we can win things domestically every few years, and also do well in Europe!
 
....we continually fail to take advantage of situations like last night. It’s what the competitive teams do; it’s why we fail; it’s why it’s so disappointing; it’s why fans vent their frustration.

Be interesting what the Reds do at OT later today.
 
Kever10 said:
Every game goes by, we have many of the following talking points.

"Pickford is a liability. Poor positioning, poor feet, too small, passing atrocious, arrogant and lacks concentration. Sell, if we can."

"Coleman is finished. Been a good servant, but he's not up to it any more. Needs replacing as a number 1 priority. Get [Insert name] in from [Insert League]."

"Keane/Mina/Holgate (delete as appropriate) is a liability, an accident waiting to happen. Need a proper Centre half who can play a high line. Sell."

"Gomes is a fraud. He needs binning. Does nothing and is an absolute bottle job. Sell."

"Sigurdsson is awful. Absolute ghost. He's had his 1 good game every 3 months has he? Bin."

"Davies is sh*te. Absolute myth. Worst player to ever wear the shirt. What is the point in him. More bothered about fashion than football. Bin"

"Delph... LOL"

"Gbam-injured"

"Iwobi is useless. Biggest waste of money we've ever spent. What does he do? What is his position? Sell."

"Berna... Nope."

"Richarlison does my head in. Not good enough. Sulks too much. First touch is terrible, shooting is worse. Attitude stinks. I'd sell for whatever we can get."

"DCL is not good enough. Only scores tap ins. 20 goals isn't that good when you think about it. He could've scored 60. We can do better. Sell."

"King. Who?"

And yet...

Ancelotti is still a failure for somehow dragging anything out of this absolute horror show of a squad. Especially that midfield.

We basically have Godfrey, Digne, Allan, Doucoure and James who are (somewhat) free from Criticism. All 5 are Ancelotti/Brands picks and 4 of them joined a week before the season started. Only Godfrey has been available for more than 75% of our games, and the rest have been missing at various overlapping points through this weird, bullsh*t season.

Has it been perfect ? Absolutely not. But we've had some good moments.

There is still an outside possibility of Europe, with a squad that I would genuinely struggle to compare favourably with any other team in the top 10.

Its a long term project, and it's gonna take time, but honestly, have a bit of pause when you hammer the manager for not being good enough, and have a bit of patience. Because as frustrating as it is when we blow opportunities the way we keep doing, it must be even more frustrating for the manager who is made to look a mug by them week in week out. And for the time being, there's not an awful lot he can do about it.

P. S. I am aware that a lot of those opinions, especially Pickford and the Ghost, are mine. I stand by them.
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Tbh, agree with with most of that, but feel/ hope Pickford has turned a corner, easily mom last night, stopped us getting a hiding, his form lately has been immense. Realise now I've gone against the grain and will probably get a lot of grief, but so what whose arsed.
 

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