Andy Gray: Martinez Not Helping Lukaku

[squonk]

He's about as much of an Everton great as Wayne Clarke.

ha ha ha

 

[4737carlin]

A divvy in football industry terms. He was a weak man who relied on the likes of Clifford Finch to do all his dirty work for him. The feller was incapable of confrontation.

See you have just said it there, "dirty work", "Clifford Finch" but the penny doesn't drop.
Your defending Johnson because you are making accusations towards Gray, and questioning his conduct after the conversation, when you should be pointing the finger towards PJ.

Either way its all in the past now, where it should stay.

 

[mrb85]

I was always led to believe that Gray had been offered the job and had virtually accepted it but that when he left the interview room Sky jumped in to offer him a massive increase in his Sky salary -- so long as he signed the new contract there and then. Another case of Everton not closing the deal.

 

[ttefc2]

To compare bit part players to Andy Gray is just daft
Andy Gray directly contributed to us winning 3 trophies over 2 seasons - scoring in two of the cup finals aswell.
Everton legend without a doubt.
Try standing on the street end right in front of them fences when he's jumping on them spitting and snarling after scoring for us - a sight to behold.

 

[sageyefc]

TBH have never been able to take to Gray, same with Lineker, have never felt a connection or liked them

 

[xreyuk]

Lukaku would win games with the rest of the squad playing [Poor language removed] if he was played properly

 

[Seanjd]

Lukaku would win games with the rest of the squad playing [Poor language removed] if he was played properly

I think the rest of the squad need to play for him to be played properly..

 

[TheFinnFan]

All these critics...popping out like mushrooms after rain.

Bobby will show them.

 

[davek]

I was always led to believe that Gray had been offered the job and had virtually accepted it but that when he left the interview room Sky jumped in to offer him a massive increase in his Sky salary -- so long as he signed the new contract there and then. Another case of Everton not closing the deal.

No, a case of a mercenary talking a good yarn about 'love for Everton' and then doing the best for themselves....and now this disgraced media whore tries and tells a good man and a successful manager like Martinez where he's going wrong, after ducking both the Villa and Everton jobs.

 

[mglennon]

Just wen I thought the fume has declined a bit

 

[Toffeelover]

That's utterly wrong. Johnson was a lamb to the slaughter in the football world, a total novice well out of his depth. He interviewed all kinds of people for that job that summer: Van Hanagem amongst them. He didn't have a clue. Andy Gray ran rings around him, saw how desperate we were entering the preseason without a boss and his talks with Johnson were designed to place pressure on SKY where he was renegotiating a contract. He plays about with the story that he wasn't 'formally' offered the job...as if the board met him for three hours for nothing like.

A wrong un who has zero credibility commenting on the manager of a club he wouldn't take the reins of.

So BK is much better?

 

[Toffeelover]

No, a case of a mercenary talking a good yarn about 'love for Everton' and then doing the best for themselves....and now this disgraced media whore tries and tells a good man and a successful manager like Martinez where he's going wrong, after ducking both the Villa and Everton jobs.

Apart from the FA Cup in what way is RM a successful manager?

 

[4737carlin]

Legend

 

[Toffeelover]

I was always led to believe that Gray had been offered the job and had virtually accepted it but that when he left the interview room Sky jumped in to offer him a massive increase in his Sky salary -- so long as he signed the new contract there and then. Another case of Everton not closing the deal.

Really does it matter, the thread is about his comment regarding the playing of Lukaku. It is DaveK who throws up this smokescreen of Gray as an Eveeton rather than looking at the substance of the comment and addressing the points raised in connection with our current playing style and how it is affecting Lukaku. But then it could involve criticism of Rm, heaven forbid.

 

[Minimeister]

TBH have never been able to take to Gray, same with Lineker, have never felt a connection or liked them

I've never got why our fans seems to want a player who has played for us to declare their undying love for us and tell us there's never been anyone else.