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2022/23 Anthony Gordon

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With most of it mate. I think he has been woefully let down and on a hiding to nothing, hes been isolated and hes needed support, an expectation was created that he could be the creative outlet the innitiitive taker - but the whole front unit bar him isnt competent. id agree at 21 that is unfair, when he should be incrementally working his way into the game, i also think its unfair on the likes of Onana and Garner incidentally - but they are viewed and judged that bit differently - the reasons why i think are valuable areas of reflection.

Id actually accept hes been off form, or that he has been impacted by environmental factors, his isolation in the front unit, the expectation, perhaps his own frustration the reaction toward him - which has been partly venomous this thread is illusive, the scenes after Southampton were disgusting. Hes 21. He basically wasnt sold as anything never mind the hope - that was an assumption made by the fans, would that have happened if there wasnt interest from Chelsea - i think thats an unfair point you lay at the lads door and part of the problem.

Maybe Chelsea turned his head, it would be stupid for it to not, but i absolutely do not see a lack of commitment - he chased shadows in games i was looking - Wolves and he was one of our busiest players, he gave the free away at Southampton on the edge of his own box - as a wide forward, its a myth and convenient to support a point of view. Onana at times has puts in less effort - again judged differently.

I agree he has talent and is a way of putting it all together so you get flashes and bursts - but again i look at Onana, we can all see the talent, but know he need support and nurturing incrementally in his development to be there player he could be. Yet we are tolerant of Onana in that or even James Garner but not Gordon despite having similar background profiles and experience of senior football - that is a reflection point as to why.

Its immensely sad is what it is, the treatment of the lad has really given me pause of thought as to what we have become holistically. Weve let him down. The likes of Newcastle can see it and want to take advantage of it, they smell value and they arent wrong.

Its an absolute trend how we fail young players, time and time again, season in, season out - we wonder how other clubs can produce these players and get amazing value - because they support them both in terms of development and environment - we dont and we set them up to fail - we are the worst at it in the PL. Which leads us to a place where we fight relegation every season and look for Danny Ings to get us out of trouble, by selling of players who could give us a decade of service - for nothing and grow and develop - James Ward Prowse destroyed us two weeks ago and no one would have took him here at 21 - in fact i think i suggested it. Its part of the problem and we are just repeating the same mistake with young flash/Gordon.

We are building nothing and if you think we are you are fooling yourself, expect more of the same...
He's definitely not been helped by the way we've played but he's also been part of that. I think his best asset last year was his workrate and it's surely fair to say we've not seen that this year.

I fully agree how it's a trend. And we lump way too much on players who simply aren't ready for it.

But right now I don't think we can afford to turn down a sizeable offer.

He's created eight chances for us in the league this season mate, in 16 games. Eight.

That is absolutely woeful.

So I won't say it's not a shame because it is, but he just isn't that good yet. I don't think he'd be the difference between us staying up or not, but the £35m we might be able to spend could be. Of course, we need a manager and that money would need to be spent wisely, so it's no guarantee.
 
Chelsea bought Kepa for £72m, what an utterly awful point. Like top Premier League football clubs never sign bad players.
Chelsea probably the worst evaluators of talent in world football and Newcastle who spent 40 mil on Linton, 20 mil on wood, 30 mil on almiron, 20 mil on Targett. No its the everton fans who are wrong!
 


Bit of a sweeping statement that one. If that's the case no top clubs would ever buy any rubbish players.
this gets me every time. Look where we are in the league, look at the performances these players are putting in. They're shocking!!
Chelsea, Newcastle and whoever else can think Gordon is a world beater in waiting but we watch him each week and he's been useless.
Same goes for each and every player in the squad.
 
He's definitely not been helped by the way we've played but he's also been part of that. I think his best asset last year was his workrate and it's surely fair to say we've not seen that this year.

I fully agree how it's a trend. And we lump way too much on players who simply aren't ready for it.

But right now I don't think we can afford to turn down a sizeable offer.

He's created eight chances for us in the league this season mate, in 16 games. Eight.

That is absolutely woeful.

So I won't say it's not a shame because it is, but he just isn't that good yet. I don't think he'd be the difference between us staying up or not, but the £35m we might be able to spend could be. Of course, we need a manager and that money would need to be spent wisely, so it's no guarantee.

Ultimately mate it comes back to your opinion of the quality of the player or potential and thats subjective - weve both made really good points.

I would however suggested the stat on chance creation is a bit misleading - look back over his games and how many have played with our starting centre forward - how can you create chances when we haven't had a centre forward of PL quality for the majority of his starting games with us - again context and environmental impact.

On the business side, overtly people get turned on by the big number of multiple million's - but that doesn't tell the whole story, the lad is on 10k a week, with no amortisation - costs the club 520k in costs a year - gold dust and gold dust in our financial position!

Compare that to the reported deal for Danjuma for 6 months, 2.5 mill loan fee to Villareal and 100k a week in wages.

Thats the reality of the business we are going to do and increasing our costs yet again for a short term fix. Making the same mistakes all over again mate.
 
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