Anthony Gordon

[MikeH72]

Should have kept him.

Well we’d have had another 10 point deduction coming our way for our 2022/23 set of accounts if we did, so absolutely not.

 

[mahermi1]

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Hang it in the louvre!!

It looks could kill, look behind you Ant...

 

[ToffeeTim]

Not falling for that mate, been around this club too long, oldest trick in the book.

How many of those have we had….

It could easily be the case that yes we were happy for him to leave, but that the player also wanted to leave. Both can be true, and I think both probably are true.

We clearly needed the money, £45m was a good deal, and the player was happy enough to go. The player had also not been performing for us in the weeks before he left. His final few performances were well off what we know he was capable of.

In an ideal world we don't even have to consider selling a player like Gordon, but unfortunately that ideal scenario didn't exist at the time.

Absolutely the right decision to sell him.

 

[summerisle]

Siri, what is an Anthony Gordon ?

 

[SJB]

The face of a man who'd played out this moment in his head all week leading up to the match but it didn't pan out as he expected.

 

[JLW]

This lad discovered an ego way to soon that it didn't match his ability.

I think that's where my dislike of him comes from.

 

[Rugby Toffee]

I felt sorry for him........................NOT

 

[Neiler]

It could easily be the case that yes we were happy for him to leave, but that the player also wanted to leave. Both can be true, and I think both probably are true.

We clearly needed the money, £45m was a good deal, and the player was happy enough to go. The player had also not been performing for us in the weeks before he left. His final few performances were well off what we know he was capable of.

In an ideal world we don't even have to consider selling a player like Gordon, but unfortunately that ideal scenario didn't exist at the time.

Absolutely the right decision to sell him.

I'm absolutely not doubting that we wanted to sell and he wanted to go. I think he was treated abdominally here by the club and by us a a supporter group and i think we failed him, developmentally and as fans - he was literally chased the road and became a lightening rod for a million different things wrong at the club.

I dont believe the whole EastEnders thing of him refusing to train etc, in fact hasn't info come out since that a deal was being brokered and he was told to stay away. The whole he forced a move thing is the easy spin that shouldn't be fell for...it happens time again. It will be when City or Utd put a bid in for Brathwaite and i guarantee the narrative will be "he wanted to go so we had to sell him and get a good deal" - its a serf mentality and too many fall for it every time. This lid was hung out by his own because of it.

The lad is now turning into the player his quality was always going to turn him into with proper development and support, he was player of the tournament winning an International youth competition in the summer, dropping shapes in the CL and well on his way to posting double digits in goals and assists this season and been Newcastle's best player - according to their fans. Not even 11 months since he left here. Makes you think where was the problem and where did it fail? - it was here, we failed him.

We sold every good player we had, put a huge responsibility on him to basically create everything and anything as a young professional not even 6 months into being a starter and did it while also not having a centre forward worthy of the name. Then we pillared him for it. When really what he needed is what he got at Newcastle and is thriving off it.

A good deal, no. Player like him are gold dust he cost us less then 5 mill a year and nothing in amortisation. £45 million is nothing for a player who could spend a decade at a club, posting double digits in goals and assists and still hold a resale value - its chicken feed and Newcastle will be laughing thier heads off. On that £45 million - where did it go because it certainty wasnt reinvested into the team to improve it - so what was the actual point - the account's in Jan are going to be interesting.

It was stupid to sell him on every front and we are all ready living to regret it. You cant keep selling your best assets and expect to grow and improve, Richarlison, Gordon, we can go back further and it will happen again now with Branthwaite - i absolutely believe people will fall for it again, it will be spun he wants the move and nothing Everton can do - there absolutely is, you already see Spurs links smelling blood in the water - we need to keep our best players.

Some of the takes in threads like this i find the weirdest takes on the forum - why are people justifying the skip fire way the club is being run, hanging young players, condoning selling our best players and convincing themselves we got a great deal - despite evidance that the players profile , ability and performances are improving hugely and increasing in playing and financial value and the catalyst of that was leaving here - its hugely lamentable and something we should be ashamed off. Its bananas and counterintuitive to be honest.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I'm absolutely not doubting that we wanted to sell and he wanted to go. I think he was treated abdominally here by the club and by us a a supporter group and i think we failed him, developmentally and as fans - he was literally chased the road and became a lightening rod for a million different things wrong at the club.

I dont believe the whole EastEnders thing of him refusing to train etc, in fact hasn't info come out since that a deal was being brokered and he was told to stay away. The whole he forced a move thing is the easy spin that shouldn't be fell for...it happens time again. It will be when City or Utd put a bid in for Brathwaite and i guarantee the narrative will be "he wanted to go so we had to sell him and get a good deal" - its a serf mentality and too many fall for it every time. This lid was hung out by his own because of it.

The lad is now turning into the player his quality was always going to turn him into with proper development and support, he was player of the tournament winning an International youth competition in the summer, dropping shapes in the CL and well on his way to posting double digits in goals and assists this season and been Newcastle's best player - according to their fans. Not even 11 months since he left here. Makes you think where was the problem and where did it fail? - it was here, we failed him.

We sold every good player we had, put a huge responsibility on him to basically create everything and anything as a young professional not even 6 months into being a starter and did it while also not having a centre forward worthy of the name. Then we pillared him for it. When really what he needed is what he got at Newcastle and is thriving off it.

A good deal, no. Player like him are gold dust he cost us less then 5 mill a year and nothing in amortisation. £45 million is nothing for a player who could spend a decade at a club, posting double digits in goals and assists and still hold a resale value - its chicken feed and Newcastle will be laughing thier heads off. On that £45 million - where did it go because it certainty wasnt reinvested into the team to improve it - so what was the actual point - the account's in Jan are going to be interesting.

It was stupid to sell him on every front and we are all ready living to regret it. You cant keep selling your best assets and expect to grow and improve, Richarlison, Gordon, we can go back further and it will happen again now with Branthwaite - i absolutely believe people will fall for it again, it will be spun he wants the move and nothing Everton can do - there absolutely is, you already see Spurs links smelling blood in the water - we need to keep our best players.

Some of the takes in threads like this i find the weirdest takes on the forum - why are people justifying the skip fire way the club is being run, hanging young players, condoning selling our best players and convincing themselves we got a great deal - despite evidance that the players profile , ability and performances are improving hugely and increasing in playing and financial value and the catalyst of that was leaving here - its hugely lamentable and something we should be ashamed off. Its bananas and counterintuitive to be honest.

I'm absolutely in no way justifying the terrible way the club was run. I said that at the time we sold, it was far from an ideal scenario, and it was the right decision at that time.

I wish circumstances had been different but they weren't. And I feel that £45m at that time was a good deal for the club.

Regards to how he was treated, those handful of idiots let the club and supporters down. But overall, he was given a lot of support and things only started to change once the Chelsea interest started and the stories came out of him being unsettled. Ultimately his poor form between the summer and January windows last season showed it was the right decision to allow him to leave. He is far better than some of those performances, such as against Wolves last Christmas.

I just fundamentally disagree that we should have kept a player who wanted to leave, at a time when we were desperate for cash. Keeping him wasn't an option in that scenario, and that is due to the poor running of the club. Certainly not me trying to defend the running of the club.

 

[Neiler]

I'm absolutely in no way justifying the terrible way the club was run. I said that at the time we sold, it was far from an ideal scenario, and it was the right decision at that time.

I wish circumstances had been different but they weren't. And I feel that £45m at that time was a good deal for the club.

Regards to how he was treated, those handful of idiots let the club and supporters down. But overall, he was given a lot of support and things only started to change once the Chelsea interest started and the stories came out of him being unsettled. Ultimately his poor form between the summer and January windows last season showed it was the right decision to allow him to leave. He is far better than some of those performances, such as against Wolves last Christmas.

I just fundamentally disagree that we should have kept a player who wanted to leave, at a time when we were desperate for cash. Keeping him wasn't an option in that scenario, and that is due to the poor running of the club. Certainly not me trying to defend the running of the club.

It angers me no end seeing what hes doing at Newcastle mate, the player hes turning into and the success hes had in his time away from us. We failed here and should be ashamed and not celebrate it in my opinion.

Sad thing is we will prob spent well beyond 45 mill on players like him - in the time he will be at Newcastle giving them the best years of his career. Wouldn't put it past us to bring him back when hes had his best years there.

We need to be cleverer then we have been and stop being serfs for other clubs and celebrating it.

 

[ToffeeTim]

It angers me no end seeing what hes doing at Newcastle mate, the player hes turning into and the success hes had in his time away from us. We failed here and should be ashamed and not celebrate it in my opinion.

Sad thing is we will prob spent well beyond 45 mill on players like him - in the time he will be at Newcastle giving them the best years of his career. Wouldn't put it past us to bring him back when hes had his best years there.

We need to be cleverer then we have been and stop being serfs for other clubs and celebrating it.

He's been really good this season, no doubt. But he wasn't good yesterday and fans always enjoy beating a team including a former player who has moved on to a perceived "bigger club". I think people are just enjoying the fact that we won and he didn't play well, that's just football fans being football fans.

We needed the money and the profit for the books because we were ran abysmally. The player was happy to leave and is now playing CL football. Football goes on, and hopefully we are now seeing an Everton team who are slowly but surely improving rather than the constant decline of the last number of years.

 

[Bulgarian toffee]

I'm absolutely not doubting that we wanted to sell and he wanted to go. I think he was treated abdominally here by the club and by us a a supporter group and i think we failed him, developmentally and as fans - he was literally chased the road and became a lightening rod for a million different things wrong at the club.

I dont believe the whole EastEnders thing of him refusing to train etc, in fact hasn't info come out since that a deal was being brokered and he was told to stay away. The whole he forced a move thing is the easy spin that shouldn't be fell for...it happens time again. It will be when City or Utd put a bid in for Brathwaite and i guarantee the narrative will be "he wanted to go so we had to sell him and get a good deal" - its a serf mentality and too many fall for it every time. This lid was hung out by his own because of it.

The lad is now turning into the player his quality was always going to turn him into with proper development and support, he was player of the tournament winning an International youth competition in the summer, dropping shapes in the CL and well on his way to posting double digits in goals and assists this season and been Newcastle's best player - according to their fans. Not even 11 months since he left here. Makes you think where was the problem and where did it fail? - it was here, we failed him.

We sold every good player we had, put a huge responsibility on him to basically create everything and anything as a young professional not even 6 months into being a starter and did it while also not having a centre forward worthy of the name. Then we pillared him for it. When really what he needed is what he got at Newcastle and is thriving off it.

A good deal, no. Player like him are gold dust he cost us less then 5 mill a year and nothing in amortisation. £45 million is nothing for a player who could spend a decade at a club, posting double digits in goals and assists and still hold a resale value - its chicken feed and Newcastle will be laughing thier heads off. On that £45 million - where did it go because it certainty wasnt reinvested into the team to improve it - so what was the actual point - the account's in Jan are going to be interesting.

It was stupid to sell him on every front and we are all ready living to regret it. You cant keep selling your best assets and expect to grow and improve, Richarlison, Gordon, we can go back further and it will happen again now with Branthwaite - i absolutely believe people will fall for it again, it will be spun he wants the move and nothing Everton can do - there absolutely is, you already see Spurs links smelling blood in the water - we need to keep our best players.

Some of the takes in threads like this i find the weirdest takes on the forum - why are people justifying the skip fire way the club is being run, hanging young players, condoning selling our best players and convincing themselves we got a great deal - despite evidance that the players profile , ability and performances are improving hugely and increasing in playing and financial value and the catalyst of that was leaving here - its hugely lamentable and something we should be ashamed off. Its bananas and counterintuitive to be honest.

I think that you hugely overestimate Gordon . He is a good player undoubtedly but I am not sure that he would become a great one someday. He fits Newcastle style, he hit some form but in my opinion he would never be a game changer as he is too dependent on his team' s performance as a whole. He simply lacks the quality to become world class as was shown last night too.
When talking about us selling our best players, don't forget that the players in both of Richarlison and Gordon cases did want to leave in order to play on higher level (as if Newcastle and Spurs are there ). Gordon even had the audacity to say that the Everton fans had been ungrateful to him for obviously singlehandedly dragging us out of relegation and he was very happy that he joined a bigger club which obviously is nonsense that is not easily forgotten let alone forgiven.
In the case of Branthwaite - every one can see that the lad has a much bigger potential than both Richarlison and Gordon. There is a player that could really win trophies and I don't think that anyone would be mad at him if he went on to achieve bigger things provided that he showed no disrespect to the club.

 

[Neiler]

He's been really good this season, no doubt. But he wasn't good yesterday and fans always enjoy beating a team including a former player who has moved on to a perceived "bigger club". I think people are just enjoying the fact that we won and he didn't play well, that's just football fans being football fans.

We needed the money and the profit for the books because we were ran abysmally. The player was happy to leave and is now playing CL football. Football goes on, and hopefully we are now seeing an Everton team who are slowly but surely improving rather than the constant decline of the last number of years.

Absolutely mate, i enjoyed it myself, i thought he looked a danger mind and he looks much fitter.

I understand the pragmatism, but i still think we failed here and its nothing to be proud off, it should be acknowledged and a reflection point - because we will head into a similar cycle with the likes of Branthwaite.

 

[Neiler]

I think that you hugely overestimate Gordon . He is a good player undoubtedly but I am not sure that he would become a great one someday. He fits Newcastle style, he hit some form but in my opinion he would never be a game changer as he is too dependent on his team' s performance as a whole. He simply lacks the quality to become world class as was shown last night too.
When talking about us selling our best players, don't forget that the players in both of Richarlison and Gordon cases did want to leave in order to play on higher level (as if Newcastle and Spurs are there ). Gordon even had the audacity to say that the Everton fans had been ungrateful to him for obviously singlehandedly dragging us out of relegation and he was very happy that he joined a bigger club which obviously is nonsense that is not easily forgotten let alone forgiven.
In the case of Branthwaite - every one can see that the lad has a much bigger potential than both Richarlison and Gordon. There is a player that could really win trophies and I don't think that anyone would be mad at him if he went on to achieve bigger things provided that he showed no disrespect to the club.

World class to me mate, is Maradona, Messi, De Bruyne etc. Hes not that and im not arguing otherwise. But hes on course to get double digits in goals and assets in the PL and getting a player like that for nothing is gold dust.

As a fan group i think we have a very low threshold and tolerance for selling our best players - Kane a bigger player then either, wanted out of Spurs for the guts of 5 years. What did Spurs do, told him to do one, qualified for the CL and built a stadium and arguably a bigger club of the bat of him and took his best years. Palace established themselves as PL club off Zaha, despite im wanting to go. WHU absolutely topped out holding RIce for as long as they did - we would have sold in a season. My point is bigger picture, but absolutely not to celebrate having to let to players go before they can contribute, develop and max out at this club - because we are so poorly run. Condoling or rationalising it and even falling for it, is colluding with the dysfunction and skip fire of how they club was run.

We failed with Gordon and we should be ashamed of it.

Hard uncomfortable truth, but a truth none the less.

 

[DanB90]

I'm absolutely not doubting that we wanted to sell and he wanted to go. I think he was treated abdominally here by the club and by us a a supporter group and i think we failed him, developmentally and as fans - he was literally chased the road and became a lightening rod for a million different things wrong at the club.

I dont believe the whole EastEnders thing of him refusing to train etc, in fact hasn't info come out since that a deal was being brokered and he was told to stay away. The whole he forced a move thing is the easy spin that shouldn't be fell for...it happens time again. It will be when City or Utd put a bid in for Brathwaite and i guarantee the narrative will be "he wanted to go so we had to sell him and get a good deal" - its a serf mentality and too many fall for it every time. This lid was hung out by his own because of it.

The lad is now turning into the player his quality was always going to turn him into with proper development and support, he was player of the tournament winning an International youth competition in the summer, dropping shapes in the CL and well on his way to posting double digits in goals and assists this season and been Newcastle's best player - according to their fans. Not even 11 months since he left here. Makes you think where was the problem and where did it fail? - it was here, we failed him.

We sold every good player we had, put a huge responsibility on him to basically create everything and anything as a young professional not even 6 months into being a starter and did it while also not having a centre forward worthy of the name. Then we pillared him for it. When really what he needed is what he got at Newcastle and is thriving off it.

A good deal, no. Player like him are gold dust he cost us less then 5 mill a year and nothing in amortisation. £45 million is nothing for a player who could spend a decade at a club, posting double digits in goals and assists and still hold a resale value - its chicken feed and Newcastle will be laughing thier heads off. On that £45 million - where did it go because it certainty wasnt reinvested into the team to improve it - so what was the actual point - the account's in Jan are going to be interesting.

It was stupid to sell him on every front and we are all ready living to regret it. You cant keep selling your best assets and expect to grow and improve, Richarlison, Gordon, we can go back further and it will happen again now with Branthwaite - i absolutely believe people will fall for it again, it will be spun he wants the move and nothing Everton can do - there absolutely is, you already see Spurs links smelling blood in the water - we need to keep our best players.

Some of the takes in threads like this i find the weirdest takes on the forum - why are people justifying the skip fire way the club is being run, hanging young players, condoning selling our best players and convincing themselves we got a great deal - despite evidance that the players profile , ability and performances are improving hugely and increasing in playing and financial value and the catalyst of that was leaving here - its hugely lamentable and something we should be ashamed off. Its bananas and counterintuitive to be honest.

You blaming the fans lad?