Apologise to Southgate

[Kevsleftpeg]

Yeah, it was non stop excitement under Hodgson, Winterbottom, Ramsey (with his “wingless wonders”, Sven, the list seems endless. How excited we were, how entertained. My God the tabloid headlines would say, fecking useless but sooooo exciting.

Because we have had a load of poor managers it doesn't suddenly make Southgate good. I absolutely despise the way we play football given the talent we have out our disposal. It is completely beneath contemp. The Euros are like a big party, everyone else has a great time singing and dancing for hours and hours while we sleep in the corner then we wake up 2 mins before the end and expect credit for being one of the last ones to leave. Our approach completely misses the point of sport/international football which is about competing, expressing talent and providing entertainment and fun. England are just dull and negative. Even if we beat Spain on penalties and lifted the trophy the entire experience would be meaningless from my perspective.

 

[chicoazul]

England were literally the bookies favourites mert.

British bookies exploit the hysteria prone thickos who support England mate.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Please name all the Spain players that are better than their opposite numbers for England

Laporte > Guehi, Carvajal > Walker, Ruiz & Zubimendi >>>>>Rice, Rodri >>>>>Mainoo, Nico Williams > Bellingham, Olmo > Foden, Morata > Kane (based on current form. I don't really know the Spanish keeper.

 

[chicoazul]

I’ve been hearing this for 25 odd years. Is every england manager terrible or do we just massively overrate english players?

Nearly every team has 1 or 2 outstanding players. England maybe 4 or 5. The likes of Spain and France have 8-9.

Exactly this pal.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

We wer'nt that exciting under Venables and Robson. In Venables defence, he didnt manage a competitive game until Euro96. There were times under Robson where we were very poor.

We didn't have a squad full of great players all playing at clubs that make the champions league semi and play for Madrid/Bayern Munich. How many players from those Venables/Robson teams get into the current squad. Not many.

 

[Goat]

I’ve been hearing this for 25 odd years. Is every england manager terrible or do we just massively overrate english players?

Nearly every team has 1 or 2 outstanding players. England maybe 4 or 5. The likes of Spain and France have 8-9.

Utter poppycock.

 

[Yarrgh]

Thick, mouth breathing banter rats lashing beer in the air singing stop the boats.

Outrageous.

What would you lash into the air to show your sophistication?

 

[chicoazul]

Outrageous.

What would you lash into the air to show your sophistication?

My arms buddy.

 

[Yarrgh]

My arms buddy.

Limbs?!!

 

[Alan Whittle]

Because we have had a load of poor managers it doesn't suddenly make Southgate good. I absolutely despise the way we play football given the talent we have out our disposal. It is completely beneath contemp. The Euros are like a big party, everyone else has a great time singing and dancing for hours and hours while we sleep in the corner then we wake up 2 mins before the end and expect credit for being one of the last ones to leave. Our approach completely misses the point of sport/international football which is about competing, expressing talent and providing entertainment and fun. England are just dull and negative. Even if we beat Spain on penalties and lifted the trophy the entire experience would be meaningless from my perspective.

My grandsons U8 side is for competing, expressing talent and providing entertainment and fun.
Professional football is for winning. Winning well if possible but winning.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Exactly this pal.

How many golden generations can we have?

 

[duncs pigeon]

We didn't have a squad full of great players all playing at clubs that make the champions league semi and play for Madrid/Bayern Munich. How many players from those Venables/Robson teams get into the current squad. Not many.

1986 squad. Gary Stevens, Trevor Steven, Peter Reid, Gary Linekar, Bryan Robson, John Barnes, Beardsley Waddle to name a few.
1996. Gasgoine, Shearer, G Neville Pearce, Sherringham Adams Fowler, plus others.

 

[MikeH72]

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Only Rodri and Carvajal are obvious upgrades tbh, everyone else is pretty even at best. I mean their club careers speak for themselves and suggest as such. Jude Bellingham is the one that plays for Real Madrid, not Dani Olmo. Phil Foden is the key player for the most successful manager of all time, not Nico Williams.

Are the Spanish players coached better in a system that suits them thus enabling them to perform better? Yes, certainly.

 

[DualityNSNO]

British bookies.

Most of Europe had England as top pick, if not first then top 3 for sure.

 

[Thomasc]

Leaves with his head held high