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Art

chrismpw said:
I've done a few oil paintings and sketches with charcoal. No formal training so know none of the terms, I just draw what I see.

Having said that, my latest painting is dated 1998 .... I've been a bit distracted.
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You've obviously got natural talent if you've already painted in oils. As for the terms, I needed to look them up so I knew what the hell artists were talking about. We both like watching Sky Portrait and Landscape Artist of the Year and so it's nice to know what acrylics are, and, although I had a good idea anyway, what en plein air meant.

My training has mostly been looking at YouTube videos. I missed yesterday's art class due to the heavy cold I have that just won't go away. We were due to work in chalk and charcoal. Charcoal and oil in my hands would result a lot of mess as I'm too careless and clumsy. In all honesty I get more help looking at YouTube than I do in the class anyway. The only real benefit is that I do actually draw or paint when I go,
 
TyphooToffee said:
You've obviously got natural talent if you've already painted in oils. As for the terms, I needed to look them up so I knew what the hell artists were talking about. We both like watching Sky Portrait and Landscape Artist of the Year and so it's nice to know what acrylics are, and, although I had a good idea anyway, what en plein air meant.

My training has mostly been looking at YouTube videos. I missed yesterday's art class due to the heavy cold I have that just won't go away. We were due to work in chalk and charcoal. Charcoal and oil in my hands would result a lot of mess as I'm too careless and clumsy. In all honesty I get more help looking at YouTube than I do in the class anyway. The only real benefit is that I do actually draw or paint when I go,
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Oils are easy because they're so forgiving. If you make a mistake you can just scrape it off and recover - even a day or so later. Nothing special about them, give it a go.
 
chrismpw said:
Having said that, my latest painting is dated 1998 .... I've been a bit distracted.

I appreciate the technical ability to reproduce light and shade and colour tone accurately in various media or using various techniques. Cant be having splodges of paint being called art simply because someone went to art school to learn the phrases to describe their spilled paint or unmade bed as art.
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This is exactly the sort of discussion I was hoping this thread would generate. I suppose abstract art is OK if it's interesting or colourful enough to look at, but Tracey Emin's unmade bed - WTF was that all about? I suppose a generations of teenagers since have told their parents that their bedroom it not 'untidy', it's 'art'
 
chrismpw said:
Oils are easy because they're so forgiving. If you make a mistake you can just scrape it off and recover - even a day or so later. Nothing special about them, give it a go.
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Wouldn't hurt to try I suppose. Either my approach in using gouache like watercolour is too heavy handed or I'm not using thick enough watercolour paper. I did actually make my own canvas board. I bought a roll of canvas and a sheet of hardboard, then cut the board to size and glued canvas to it. I've got a couple of bits of board left so I might slap a bit of gesso primer on and use those.
 
TyphooToffee said:
Wouldn't hurt to try I suppose. Either my approach in using gouache like watercolour is too heavy handed or I'm not using thick enough watercolour paper. I did actually make my own canvas board. I bought a roll of canvas and a sheet of hardboard, then cut the board to size and glued canvas to it. I've got a couple of bits of board left so I might slap a bit of gesso primer on and use those.
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If you're just starting out with oils you could just try painting onto cardboard. It worked for Lowry. If you want it white, just put a coat of white emulsion on it.

Like any pursuit, there's just doing it, or listen to the legion of people who say "you have to have this, you have to have that, this is the best, no that's the best" and they'll coincidentally be able to sell you all you need.
 

TyphooToffee said:
This is exactly the sort of discussion I was hoping this thread would generate. I suppose abstract art is OK if it's interesting or colourful enough to look at, but Tracey Emin's unmade bed - WTF was that all about? I suppose a generations of teenagers since have told their parents that their bedroom it not 'untidy', it's 'art'
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Donkeys years back in the early 80s when my brother was getting married, on Canada they received a large canvass by way of a wedding gift from the wife's aunt who was an artist. Ot was modern art. The piece was called riders in the storm. It consisted of lots of grey strokes and a dodge of red towards the centre. It was a mess (we all quietly decided) - one of those things is tou HAVE to hang on show and you know will ruin your home for decades.

My mum's face and subsequent long and forthright description when she saw it was one of utter contempt - she was Hyacinth Bucket long before the character existed and always struggled to be diplomatic lol
 
chrismpw said:
If you're just starting out with oils you could just try painting onto cardboard. It worked for Lowry. If you want it white, just put a coat of white emulsion on it.

Like any pursuit, there's just doing it, or listen to the legion of people who say "you have to have this, you have to have that, this is the best, no that's the best" and they'll coincidentally be able to sell you all you need.
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I prefer not to paint on a white background. I just happened to buy cheapish white gesso. I mixed it with to colour I wanted to get a primed background. I do a lot of research and look at reviews and work from there. I don't buy the expensive stuff. I don't want to be the guy on the golf course dressed and kitted out like Ian Poulter who can't drive the ball more than 50 yards.

The Works have just opened a branch in Sidcup so I might take a walk up there and see what they've got. My wife will despair when I come back, after telling her I'd decided it's gouache for me!
 
chrismpw said:
Donkeys years back in the early 80s when my brother was getting married, on Canada they received a large canvass by way of a wedding gift from the wife's aunt who was an artist. Ot was modern art. The piece was called riders in the storm. It consisted of lots of grey strokes and a dodge of red towards the centre. It was a mess (we all quietly decided) - one of those things is tou HAVE to hang on show and you know will ruin your home for decades.

My mum's face and subsequent long and forthright description when she saw it was one of utter contempt - she was Hyacinth Bucket long before the character existed and always struggled to be diplomatic lol
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lol
 
magicjuan said:
I love Hieronymous Bosch,
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Football writer Henry Winter once managed to cram a reference to Bosch and a line from Elvis Costello's "Oliver's Army" in the same paragraph of his match report of the FA Cup win over the RS ( the Dan Gosling game).
Pretty cool I thought at the time.
I'm more of a Winslow Homer, Andrew Wyeth, Edward Hopper sort of chap myself.
 
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This is one I'm most pleased with, and currently the last. A cornish fishing cottage from a photo i took back in the early 90s. Annoyingly I'd forgotten where it was taken, then last year I went with my father-in-law who lives that way on a shoot as part of his camera club - we went straight to this harbour - couldn't believe my eyes when I recognised the cottage.
 

Alan Whittle said:
Football writer Henry Winter once managed to cram a reference to Bosch and a line from Elvis Costello's "Oliver's Army" in the same paragraph of his match report of the FA Cup win over the RS ( the Dan Gosling game).
Pretty cool I thought at the time.
I'm more of a Winslow Homer, Andrew Wyeth, Edward Hopper sort of chap myself.
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Quite like Hoppers work,very simple images that capture the period but also have a feeling of isolation in them
 
chrismpw said:
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This is one I'm most pleased with, and currently the last. A cornish fishing cottage from a photo i took back in the early 90s. Annoyingly I'd forgotten where it was taken, then last year I went with my father-in-law who lives that way on a shoot as part of his camera club - we went straight to this harbour - couldn't believe my eyes when I recognised the cottage.
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@tommye do you know any good roofers please mate?
 

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