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Art

TyphooToffee said:
I'd not heard of Perez until now. I see what you mean, both about titillation and atmospherics. I didn't do art at school as I wasn't very good and was more suited to English, maths, technical drawing and metalwork. I wanted to become a journalist but when I only got a grade 2 CSE I lost heart. I was advised to try to become a civil engineer anyway but I was a bit immature for my age and took the easy way out when offered a job in Insurance in the City (of London), and proceeded to spiral up and down (mostly down) career wise throughout my working life.

I can only draw and paint now because it's obviously in my DNA (mother, two brothers and two sisters are very good artists) but I've had to work at it through trial and error. I don't think of myself as talented because I wish the results were better than they are. It's just something passed on that I seem able to do, like the crossword thing, that fills my time and makes me no longer want to go back to work during my retirement.

I'm so pleased I started this thread because others are helping me to see the wonders of the art world. Let's face it, it's better than talking politics!
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Your secondary education pretty much tallies with mine. When given the choice in our second year at the age of twelve, I opted to take the technical route as I quite fancied becoming a draughtsman when leaving school. That took me into Geometric and Engineering Drawing, posh for tech drawing, Engineering and Workshop Theory, posh for metalwork. It was a grammar school after all.
Back on topic, I quite simply fall into the category of those who instinctively know what to like.
 
tommytowne said:
Your secondary education pretty much tallies with mine. When given the choice in our second year at the age of twelve, I opted to take the technical route as I quite fancied becoming a draughtsman when leaving school. That took me into Geometric and Engineering Drawing, posh for tech drawing, Engineering and Workshop Theory, posh for metalwork. It was a grammar school after all.
Back on topic, I quite simply fall into the category of those who instinctively know what to like.
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As I achieved G1 CSEs in tech drawing and metalwork, and they were considered equal to an O Level pass, I used to add those similar posh names as GCE passes on my CV. My trouble is I've got my late Dad's technical, cryptic, tidy mind but my Mum's artistic, scatterbrained spirit. It means can paint and draw but it's an effort because I have to be so precise that I haven't got flair.
 

TyphooToffee said:
I was just highlighting the fact that art critics will accept anything they see as, or are convinced is an outstanding work of art. I haven't seen the ketchup painting but that's not the point. I also don't see the point of trying to emulate anyone considering I'm having enough trouble painting like me!
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OK, I was just disagreeing with the '10 year-old' quote, in the nicest possible way of course. I also think it better to say some art critics. See them as agents, some are in to make a buck and I imagine if something appears in a Saatchi gallery it's seen as bona fide. I reckon if they pulled that without the Saatchi backing it may have worked out differently.

Picking up on this here. I play bass, not great but better than, say, last year. A lot of my biggest lightbulb moments, especially in finding what I sound like, have come from working out what others are doing, or copying licks, phrases etc.

Good thread, by the way, and yes better than politics...
 

roydo said:
Like that, nice one. Would have a different frame, but thats just me. Like the way you have made a horse painting, (which are usually dull as ditch water), pretty interesting, almost comedic.
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I would have preferred a bigger border but I cut the painting too small. The only way around it would be to put it in a bigger frame and cut my own mount. Maybe I will some time but for now it's just a reminder of the learning curve. I've now bought some cotton paper. If I'd have known about it before, and how difficult it is to learn to paint watercolour, I wouldn't have struggled so much and might have made a better job of it.
 
TyphooToffee said:
I would have preferred a bigger border but I cut the painting too small. The only way around it would be to put it in a bigger frame and cut my own mount. Maybe I will some time but for now it's just a reminder of the learning curve. I've now bought some cotton paper. If I'd have known about it before, and how difficult it is to learn to paint watercolour, I wouldn't have struggled so much and might have made a better job of it.
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The only painting that I've ever done is a watercolour, and it was at that time that I realised I had no imagination.
 

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