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2019/20 Bernard

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Nymzee said:
How is that in any way the same thing? I tried to spell it out as simply as possible for you.

“Bernard is our best winger but this season he hasn’t been the best.” is remarkably straightforward.
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except you said no such thing. You made your claim and then tried to backtrack when it was clear as day you were wrong

it's ok feller
 
TheBigIguana said:
How's this for agenda: Bernard has been better than Iwobi this season. I see a path for Iwobi to be better and I think Saturday was more or less the best we will ever get from Bernard, and thus I'd like to see us try to work with Iwobi when he's healthy, but Bernard has been better this year.

Ultimately neither is good enough. Iwobi has like 2 goals and 1 assist in 20 matches in all comps and Bernard has like 4 and 5 in 50. Iwobi and Bernard both look meh on advanced stats. The only redeeming thing about Iwobi is he's very good at passing it forward from midfield and into the box. Bernard did this well Saturday so hard to complain there. But to take a step forward we need wingers who can move the ball AND create chances and goals. Both these guys only do the first part well enough.
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It's certainly more balanced than your usual guff. I don't agree, obvs. Bernie created a series of chances on Saturday, with better players around him his stats would look a lot better. Iwobi has played with Aubameyang and still has terrible assist stats. I'm not married to the stats in the same way you are, however, and can see, with my eyes, the difference between the two of them.
 

windymiller said:
It's certainly more balanced than your usual guff. I don't agree, obvs. Bernie created a series of chances on Saturday, with better players around him his stats would look a lot better. Iwobi has played with Aubameyang and still has terrible assist stats. I'm not married to the stats in the same way you are, however, and can see, with my eyes, the difference between the two of them.
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Whats this watching actual football and making your mind up malarkey,
The stats don't lie EVER



Except when they blatantly do of course lol
 
windymiller said:
It's certainly more balanced than your usual guff. I don't agree, obvs. Bernie created a series of chances on Saturday, with better players around him his stats would look a lot better. Iwobi has played with Aubameyang and still has terrible assist stats. I'm not married to the stats in the same way you are, however, and can see, with my eyes, the difference between the two of them.
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I still think we will see better from Iwobi than what he did under Silva. I hope at least. He's got a good sense of how to create space with passes.

Bernard plays at that level the rest of the year and the stats will show up. But his defenders have basically been waiting since a deflected goal against Watford for this performance again. It can't be a one off.
 
TheBigIguana said:
I still think we will see better from Iwobi than what he did under Silva. I hope at least. He's got a good sense of how to create space with passes.

Bernard plays at that level the rest of the year and the stats will show up. But his defenders have basically been waiting since a deflected goal against Watford for this performance again. It can't be a one off.
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It’s not a one off: you don’t need to score a goal to have had a good performance.
 

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