Bernie Ecclestone

[Rita_Poon]

Cludgie breathed Rod Stewart wannabe.

 

[davek]

lol

 

[peteblue]

The man should keep his opinions to himself. Did a great job commercially with F1 and made himself rich, but he’s a spiv and totally out of touch…..

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The Values of Europe (Mini-series): A view from the Czech Republic

Her Excellency Marie Chatardová, Czech Ambassador to the United Kingdom, underlines the fundamental importance of the right to self-determination for countries big and small, in Europe and across t…

ucleuropeblog.com

 

[Cork Evertonian]

You're right about Ecclestone. But the issue is that Ecclestone has inadvertently stumbled upon something and he's said out loud what most/many believe to be the case: we want the world to go back to some semblance of normality and peace rather than escalation to prevail.

It's not a message the MSM want to get through but a celebrity like Ecclestone who doesn't give a flying one has gone off message and pierced through the fog of propaganda.

We all just want a peace deal.

Peace deal? Russia needs to stop bombing and murdering innocent Ukranian citizens. It's as simple as that basically.

This is a war that no one else wanted but Russia and Russia only. I just don't see doing a deal with these people as a viable option really.

 

[davek]

Peace deal? Russia needs to stop bombing and murdering innocent Ukranian citizens. It's as simple as that basically.

This is a war that no one else wanted but Russia and Russia only. I just don't see doing a deal with these people as a viable option really.

People want peace and prosperity. The point being made with that poll was that - despite all the warmongering in the western media - the populations of Europe want a deal and not a prolonged war in Ukraine. They want their lives back even if that means Ukraine having to cede part of their territory. All borders are there to be redrawn. I dare say once Putin goes and a different regime is in place in Moscow then negotiations will start to hand certain bits of territory back.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

People want peace and prosperity. The point being made with that poll was that - despite all the warmongering in the western media - the populations of Europe want a deal and not a prolonged war in Ukraine. They want their lives back even if that means Ukraine having to cede part of their territory. All borders are there to be redrawn. I dare say once Putin goes and a different regime is in place in Moscow then negotiations will start to hand certain bits of territory back.

I wonder what's the opinion on the ground in Russia, with regards to Putin?

Is there a desire for change, or are the vast majority of Russians happy enough with the way things are, and do they support this war?

I guess that's a question only anyone in Russia can answer though.

 

[davek]

I wonder what's the opinion on the ground in Russia, with regards to Putin?

Is there a desire for change, or are the vast majority of Russians happy enough with the way things are, and do they support this war?

I guess that's a question only anyone in Russia can answer though.

He's officially popular. But no doubt mistrusted by most.

 

[Eggs]

….Hamilton should’ve won the title last season. Dodgy.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

People want peace and prosperity. The point being made with that poll was that - despite all the warmongering in the western media - the populations of Europe want a deal and not a prolonged war in Ukraine. They want their lives back even if that means Ukraine having to cede part of their territory. All borders are there to be redrawn. I dare say once Putin goes and a different regime is in place in Moscow then negotiations will start to hand certain bits of territory back.

That's not true at all, and certainly not among any countries that have direct experience of Russian oppression. This is nothing more than Chamberlain-style appeasement of a monster and a criminal. It's time for you to grow a backbone Dave.

 

[davek]

That's not true at all, and certainly not among any countries that have direct experience of Russian oppression. This is nothing more than Chamberlain-style appeasement of a monster and a criminal. It's time for you to grow a backbone Dave.

I just want peace in Europe.

I'll leave the sabre rattling to you and others who can sit back in the comfort of your own armchair watching human's get shelled to oblivion.

You believe your opposition to Putin is noble, but what you're helping to do is prop up a rancid western puppet like Zelensky who is willing to do their bidding. A clown who was in charge of a regime pre-war launching neo-liberal shock and awe on his own people and tolerating neo-nazism.

The majority of Europeans want their lives back. We want a reasonable cost of living. That chorus will become deafening soon enough and it will shake their individual governments to the core. A peace deal is in the best interests of the long suffering Ukrainians and everyone else apart from the puppet Kiev regime and NATO's warmongers.

Maybe you should read this (not exactly on the left) journal and get real.

Will it be necessary to ‘destroy Ukraine in order to save it’?

Just weeks before the bloody 1968 Tet Offensive in South Vietnam, war correspondent Peter Arnett published an iconic dispatch in which he asked an unidentified U.S. Army major the rationale for the…

thehill.com

“We Can’t Be Ukraine Hawks Forever,” in which he describes his own transformation from idealist to realist, stressing that we can’t “confuse what is desirable with what is likely, and what is morally ideal with what is achievable.”

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I just want peace in Europe.

I'll leave the sabre rattling to you and others who can sit back in the comfort of your own armchair watching human's get shelled to oblivion.

You believe your opposition to Putin is noble, but what you're helping to do is prop up a rancid western puppet like Zelensky who is willing to do their bidding. A clown who was in charge of a regime pre-war launching neo-liberal shock and awe on his own people and tolerating neo-nazism.

The majority of Europeans want their lives back. We want a reasonable cost of living. That chorus will become deafening soon enough and it will shake their individual governments to the core. A peace deal is in the best interests of the long suffering Ukrainians and everyone else apart from the puppet Kiev regime and NATO's warmongers.

Maybe you should read this (not exactly on the left) journal and get real.

Will it be necessary to ‘destroy Ukraine in order to save it’?

Just weeks before the bloody 1968 Tet Offensive in South Vietnam, war correspondent Peter Arnett published an iconic dispatch in which he asked an unidentified U.S. Army major the rationale for the…

thehill.com

“We Can’t Be Ukraine Hawks Forever,” in which he describes his own transformation from idealist to realist, stressing that we can’t “confuse what is desirable with what is likely, and what is morally ideal with what is achievable.”

I have family in CZ and Poland, and know many people in Estonia and Finland. They all back Ukraine because they know full well what being invaded by Russia is like, especially when we in the west turn our backs on them while it happens. Maybe if we had been invaded a bit more recently than 1066 we'd have a different perspective.

Incidentally, I strongly suspect that if you ask most Ukrainians, it's not material things they're defending, but rather their ability to self-determine their lot. That's why they're not willing to be forced to give up things due to Russian aggression. This has always been a blindspot for Labour men like yourself. Maybe you recall how the Poles working in the mines here reacted when the NUM jumped into bed with the Russians?

 

[davek]

I have family in CZ and Poland, and know many people in Estonia and Finland. They all back Ukraine because they know full well what being invaded by Russia is like, especially when we in the west turn our backs on them while it happens. Maybe if we had been invaded a bit more recently than 1066 we'd have a different perspective.

Incidentally, I strongly suspect that if you ask most Ukrainians, it's not material things they're defending, but rather their ability to self-determine their lot. That's why they're not willing to be forced to give up things due to Russian aggression. This has always been a blindspot for Labour men like yourself. Maybe you recall how the Poles working in the mines here reacted when the NUM jumped into bed with the Russians?

Utter baloney...as any cursory glance at the mission creep of NATO in Europe since the fall of the USSR will testify to.

You live in an upside down world if you cant see those countries have been forcing the issue.

Regardless of eastern Europe and their concerns, we in western Europe are paying a price for national government's looking to continue this mad war.

They'll all topple one by one if this carries on much longer. Beyond all the tea and sympathy messaging from our public there's no stomach for any more of this. Standards of living are being eroded and a peaceful settlement to the Ukrainian war will be required.

 

[Baines' left foot]

What even is this world any more? It’s beyond parody.

 

[davek]

This Lewis Hamilton spat with F1s bosses and Ecclestone: this is because he's not number 1 anymore isn't it?

Story today about him refusing to take his nose stud out.

What a mensch.